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From: 	 heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	 Thursday, July 17, 1997 11:52 PM
To: 	 Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: The Two Sticks on God's Kingdom becoming


From:          (Mike Rice)
To:            "Hebrew Roots" <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject:       Re: Who are we as believers in Messiah

Dear Eddie,

Stefan is right on.  The Holy Spirit has also called to us to move toward our
Biblical roots which do appear largely Jewish. He would give us dreams of
direction that would be confirmed or lived out years later.  He is in the
process of identifying for us this worldly, Babylon system that is established
within His kingdom.  He has shown it to us in the form of an old man who must
have his own way with the people of YHVH.  He has used very strong and graphic
symbols to show the degree of departure from the will of YHVH this old man's
system has made.  It is perverse in YHVH's eyes but sadly not our own.  Until
he anoints us with eye salve.  Simply stated the system of man has and is
raping the Bride of YHVH.  Most of us were/are led into this system and are
given its expectations of the Kingdom and its King.  It would appear that this
has been allowed and tolerated for some time, but now He is shaking it in
increasing degrees. This system is being shaken and will soon fall, and this
"old man" does not like it.  This shaking causes men and women to have to make
choices.

The teaching that you bring forth of the Bride, Ephraim, doubly fruitful as
the
overcomer has been interesting.  The questions that I have concerning this is
just what difficult choices might YHVH's people find in their path, that if
chosen correctly, would be one more step in overcoming the hold of this "old
man's system".  Much like Zadok chose 3 times to follow His Lord, first to
leave the tradition of the Saul regime; second to not follow the personality
of
Absalom; and third to not jump ahead of YHVH by following Adonijah.  Only
after
successfully making the right choices was Zadok to be made High Priest in the
temple of YHVH.  I realize that overcoming is on many fronts both corporate
and
personal but I wonder if the ecclesia is being faced with making choices right
now much like Zadok in order to be found worthy to rule and reign in the age
to
come.

Michael and Sammye Rice

From Eddie:
*************

          I am in 100% agreement that the present move of God's Holy 
Spirit / Ruach HaKodesh to return His people back to the 
Hebraic/Jewish Roots of Christianity is a PREPARATION of the Bride 
and is linked to the Messianic age.

          I present this connection in my new book, "Who is the Bride 
of Christ?" which many on this newsgroup have ordered.

                                               Eddie Chumney

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From:           Aviel Eliyah Rodriguez
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       A Poetic response-- re: Who are we as believers in
                     Messiah ???


Dear Eddie,

Thank you for your continued faithful service to the newsgroup.  It's
a great blessing.  I would like to add my testimony to brother Stefan
Blad's message...quoted from below.  However, if you will permit, I
would like to share it in the form of a poem which I've written; and
follows his excerpted statements.

Shalom b'shem Yeshua,
Aviel

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>>BUT Halleluiah!!!  the Great HaShem does keep us! He protects those
>>who search for truth...HIS truth...and he reveals to them the
>>'mystery' of the ages of which Paul speaks...and that is ...that >>
>WE >><< >>ARE<< Israelites!! Baruch HaShem! >> >>As we search for our
biblical roots, our heritage, the Lord reveals >to >>many that they
too have a PHYSICAL connection as well as a spiritual >>one.  The
identity crisis has a solution...the deep yearning in our >>souls is
soothed by the 'knowing' that we are truly part of the >>family. 
Reasons now abound as to the seemingly fanatacism that one >>has over
'things Jewish', the land of Israel, the 'connection'. All >of >>it
slowly seems to 'make sense', to come into focus.  However...along
>>with this 'knowing'....one must then take the next step...what does
>>one do with this knowing?? This revelation from the Almighty is
>>happening worldwide...and the restoration is beginning...but >>it is
still just that...a beginning.  Ephraim needs to stand up...to >>be
counted...to become the mighty man that he once was...this will >bring
>>envy to his brother Judah. >> >>This is the time for the restoration
of all things (Acts 3:21). It is >>the time to restore the original
Bible message and to see things as >>God sees them... >> >>...and I
would add, to reclaim our own culture! Only in this way shall >>the
two become one...the two sticks become reunited, and brother to
>>recognize brother!  The believers in the Jewish Messiah must strike
>>their thigh and moan...they must repent of the foreign gods they
have >>embraced and return to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
Whether >>one knows in their heart that they have physical ties to the
>>House...or have been grafted in and have become as a NATIVEBORN (as
>>described in the scritpures) we are BOTH part of the House of
Israel, >>we MUST embrace the biblical truths that YHVH gave to all of
us....it >>is time for the truth to take hold of our hearts. It is
time for us >to >>LIVE OUT our beliefs... >>

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>From Aviel:
>

 An Ephraimite Christian's Plea... For the Glorious
Olive TreeAwake, O' brother Judah to Ephriam's plea:'Ha Shem's
Torahinscribed on hearts by Grace-- is urgency!'In raising David's
Tabernacle,Ha Shem, please help us see--that Your Olive Tree, well
'stablishedin Yeshua is our need;and to manifest echad in love:The
nature of its Seed.O Judah, view our Father's plan--His truth and
constant care:Ephraim's house-- to you once lost--his fruitfulness--
we bear!In singing of God's boundless GRACE,we've praised Him
fervently.Yet, we confess-- as Joseph's vine--to seem 'a rootless
tree'.Once lost, now gathered from the nations...Awake, Ephraim's
'fulness',for we sleep upon a throne!Hear O' Israel, the LORD our
God,the LORD is one...',to us should be well known.Yet, pursuing
"men's traditions"as to structures in the Church--in countless,
multiple denominations...behind battlements we perch.So, that we of
Joseph's vine have yet discovered at our base:That the Potter cast TWO
families...For One purpose-- LAW AND GRACE.There is no power in
disunity;and His image we must clone...So, how long, O house of
Joseph,will we quarrel with our own?!The answer comes, the answer
is:'Til the Daystar's light arises,shining forth for them that
pray:That Ephraim's "fullness" enterto awareness of the day...In which
the calling he's been given is "Protect and not betray!"...our brother
Judah-- whom in blindness,was by us led more astray...'Due OUR
"gentile ways" and "Passion Plays"that cast a bias hue--They shunned
the One they should have soughtin Spirit and in Truth.God's Plan of
Grace, they've deemed disgrace:prone to blindness, just as we.They
rejected and denied Him...as the Prophets said would be.But Ephraim...
Judah's writingshave made possible the news:That our "Salvation"!  Our
Messiah!By God's Grace, is of the Jews!Thus, our Father's plan comes
to fruitionthrough a faith that must abound--For the Law, though
wholly righteous,cuts all sinners to the ground.So, repent
Ephraim;boast not youself!!...because of Judah's fall.For Yeshua's
blood has ransomed both--and broken down the wall.So, that all have
been indicted--So, that all may be redeemed...is the Potter's Plan of
Mercy:grace-filled hearts, His Law, to beam!The wall built up has been
cast down.So, repent Ephraim!  Boast not...in the errors of our
youth!For He, who's ONE, will surely come--restoring us to truth.So,
let the House of David rise upfrom the dust of ages past...As
awareness of the "fullness"enters Israel, at last.He molds both...
into one peoplewho will share a common past...As they realize the
purposeof the Potter's "double cast".If Truth and Grace should flow
from Zion...then must Judah and Ephraim...Simply be... ECHAD as He!For
the Holy Onebids us... "Become!"--His Glorious Olive Tree.            
      
                  Copyright 1997 by                                          
                    
  
               Aviel Eliyah Rodriguez

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