From: heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 1997 1:11 AM To: Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup Subject: Why Discuss if the New Testament is Scri From: Jamie Johnson To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: Is the New Testament Scripture ??? Philip Nowland and Jim, Thank you so much for your posts! I believe the New Testament is scripture and divinely inspired and that God was/is sovereign behind the canonization. Certainly the historical church has done wrongful things but God can bring forth greatness out of what seems to be nothingness. He has been doing that from the beginning. He created a universe out of nothingness. He breathed life into clay to bring us to be. He brought out the population of the world out of Noah and his family. He brought forth a son to Abram and Sarai. He used a shepherd boy with a sling to kill a giant warrior who blasphemed against the God of Israel. And ultimately, He came to earth incarnate as Jesus/Yeshua -- a baby in a manger! God did the same with the canonization. He can use you and me. I love my Bible and I believe every word from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22 is the divinely inspired Word of God. And I love the church despite the wrong we do to one another and to others. Love in Christ, Jamie P.S. Let me ask you to pray for me. I am encouraged to see how we have let one another know about needs we have (Like Rabbi O's need for a vehicle). I am unsettled in my church identity. I attend different churches regularly, but have not found a church home. I realize I long for the united body of believers when we get to Heaven, but that I am here now to do His work in this world. Pray that I would look to Him to guide me to where I am to worship. I want to find a church home so that I won't be a moving target. God bless you. From Eddie: ************** Jamie, our prayers are indeed with you that you will be led by the Ruach HaKodesh / Holy Spirit in all you ways and He will plant you in the EXACT place that He desires to fulfill His Will for your life! *********************************************************************** From: John Castle To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: Is the New Testament Scripture ??? I am drifting to the opinion that the NT is to be likened to Talmudic literature. It expands and explains the Tenach. But as opposed to the Talmud, I DO believe that it is inerrant. John Castle ************************************************************************** From: "The Neumann's" To: <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com> Subject: Re: Is the New Testament Scripture ??? Dear Eddie, I have learned a great deal of information in the weeks i have been part of 'the family'. But there has been an uneasiness in my spirit when i come across certain points of discussion. the canon/scripture area is but one. it is good to learn ones roots, ones heritage as long as we look forward as often as we look back. i wonder how many of Abraham's kids also happen to be 'Sons of Issacar'. I confess i don't know much theology or hebraic termonology so bear with me. i have read and studied what is called the Old Testement, and have found great wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of the ONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF 'THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL'. especially when desiring to walk upright before HIM. but there is a problem in the TORAH/TANAKH that has always troubled me. and the simplest way to explane is in two scriptures. "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings,that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, THY G*D REIGNETH!" Isaiah 52:7. and 8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalm 34:8 Awhile back I learned that the Hebrew word 'basar' meant glad tidings/good news or what we today call 'gospel'. except that there is nothing in the OT that is 'sweet to the taste' or close to sounding like 'good news'. if you leave out the PROMISE. if you leave out SALVATION. if you ignore all the prophecies concerning our Yeshua. HE is our GOOD NEWS and our BLESSED HOPE. without the prophecies of the OT what purpose is there for a NT. and without the REVELATION of the WORD in the gospels the Tanakh would have only philosophies and theories that man could argue forever. and never find the TRUTH. so forgive me if i struggle to understand why the discussion on topics that ignour simple common sense. maybe i miss the deep and involved noyances but do they really help us to serve lovingly and humbly. i keep feeling we miss too much of the simple because we are so busy compounding the convoluted. IN KING'S LOVE bob neuman From Eddie: ************** Bob, The answer to your question is very simple. There are many who discover the Hebraic/Jewish Roots of their faith and recognize that the Sabbath is eternal, that God gave the Festivals in Lev 23 for His people to keep and celebrate rather than Christmas and Easter and recognize that the Torah is eternal and begin to examine what the Bible says regarding WHAT their ROLE and responsibilities are toward the Torah and embracing their Hebraic Roots and then want to DISCARD the MESSIAH and say that Yeshua/Jesus is not God and that the NT is not scripture. The purpose of these discussions is to enable people to realize that embracing our the Hebraic/Jewish Roots should allow us to BETTER UNDERSTAND the NT not replace it and to BETTER UNDERSTAND the Messiah NOT replace Him for new discovered truths. In other words, BALANCE .... BALANCE ... BALANCE ... *************************************************************************