From: heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 1997 11:16 PM To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup" Subject: Temple Mount Location
From: Thomas Huck To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Temple Mount Location While you might be right about the smiles of those who really think that they know better than the rest of us unintelligent people and that the Temple can be rebuilt without disturbing the Dome of the Rock. Well maybe the last laugh is on you and them. You better do your homework on the Muslim people period - because they will fight to the death if anyone thinks that they can construct any religious building anywhere within 5 miles of the Dome of the Rock. So you might think that the Dome of the Rock can remain but unless God does something about the Muslims and their interest in the Dome of the Rock - it doesn't matter whereever you think that the right location of the Temple should be! The Muslims won't want it! ************************************************************************ From: AMIAVRAHAM To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: The Temple Mount and the Future Temple Dear Garcia: Are you considering the building of Temple beside the islam temple as some peacefull deal? Can you imagine the Temple of the Holy Elohim together with this gentil and unclean place? No brother. Never that happen! Dan. ********************************************************************** From: Dee Crabb To: heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com Subject: Re: Temple Mount Dr. Levesque, Mount Moriah is the Mount of the L-RD, and being so it can not change just because man has decided to enlarge the top of the Mount. The whole of the Mount is seen as "the place" where G-d has put His Name, not only the Mount but the entirety of Jerusalem itself. Yes, the court of the Gentiles was for the Gentiles, and Gentiles have been in control of the Mount for a very long period of time. There are many types of Gentiles. And the ones during the latter part of the seven years of the birth pains are the false messiah and his hordes. He will not be Arabic, so why would even he allow the Dome to remain? If he will be seeking all to worship him, then it would seem logical that the Dome has to go. The study that I did on the Temple Mount and the placement of the Temple building itself places it just a little North and East of the present sight of the Dome, and not at the Dome of the Spirits. Just because the L-RD allows the Dome to stand now is no puzzle. But when the time for the restoration of the altar comes it will take some considerable space. The altar is built and put into use first. The Mount will be teeming with priests and Israelites and worshipers. The tabernacle will be repaired and used till the Temple building construction begins. You say that during the time of the tribulation that Israel will be "permitted" to build a pre-fabricated Temple. Israel and the Jewish people do not need permission from anyone in order to build the Temple! They have a standing and perpetual statute or law, to build that Temple. They already have permission in the form of a commandment from G-d to do it! They do not need man's permission. And if that is so, and it is, then why would they build a pre-fabricated second rate Temple? Before they would do that they would use the Tabernacle (tent, of David) of the wilderness, which according to Scripture will be found and repaired and reinstituted. We do know that there will be a Temple, and we do know that the false messiah will sit in that Temple, but he will not fool the devout Jews (or other believers) who know the Torah. We do know that he will have a false prophet with him, and we do know that the false prophet is not a Moslem. That false prophet comes from the world of Christianity, the Christianity that does not believe or adhere to the Torah of G-d. I have learned the the war of Ezekiel 38-39 does not come at the beginning of the tribulation (birth pains), but in fact comes during the end of the third year and beginning of the fourth of the birth pains. And when Gog and Magog come down from the North they wipe out the Arab factions along the way who have been allied with them. So perhaps the Dome will remain until then, who knows? But I sincerely doubt that it will remain standing when Israel regains control of the Mount. And because of that fact there will be much trouble with a big 'T' in the land between Jews and Arabs (as if there isn't enough already!). This to me, is the "key" to how the birth pains begin, and not the war of Gog and Magog. For Gog and Magog get destroyed at the mid-way point by G-d, and then the false messiah sweeps down and mops up the operation, and enters Jerusalem as a "messiah" of sorts. He and his false prophet and hordes reign for forty-two months. Everybody knows this. Our Messiah Yeshua does indeed construct a new Temple. But does He repair the one that is standing, or build an entirely new one? He builds the one in Ezekiel. The Temple of Ezekiel (as drawn by man's understanding) has a building that looks very much like the Temple building of the past. I saw a real difference in the Mount though, as it had four very large chambers that sat very near each corner of the Temple building. Are these "chambers" the place that Yeshua has prepaired for the believers or saints? Are these the many rooms of the mansions of the Father? If this new one is built during the millennium then what happens to it when G-d's heavenly Temple and throne come down to the earth at the end of that last millennium when Messiah turns the Kingdom over to G-d? Is it torn down? If we look at the past we will see that the reconstuction of the Temple did not require the tearing down of the old one. It was "repaired" and sometimes enlarged (and done very carefully). All of these questions and thoughts need further searching. I don't know about all of you, but I have a great time researching, studying, and reading Torah. Some day we will know all things, but till then, enjoy your walk in the Garden of G-d. Shalom, Dee. *************************************************************************