From: 	 heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	 Tuesday, October 14, 1997 11:29 PM
To: 	 Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: The Civil / Religious Calendar

> From:          Jerry Baker
> To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
> Subject:       The Biblical Calendar
> 
> Dear Eddie,
> 
> Can you tell me when God changed the new year from just before
> Passover as He stated in Exodus to the fall on Trumpets? I can find
> no biblical source for this change and am wondering when this
> transpired.
> 
> Thanks
> Jerry
> 
> From Eddie:
> ***************
> 
>         Jerry,
> 
>        Actually you have it backwards.  Rosh HaShanah starts the new
>  year for the CIVIL calendar.  The CIVIL calendar existed FIRST. 
> 
>        In Exodus 12:1-2, God introduced the RELIGIOUS calendar as it
>  is written:
> 
> "And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt,
> saying, THIS MONTH shall be unto the BEGINNING of MONTHS: it shall
> be the FIRST MONTH of the year to you"
> 
>        In Exodus 13:4 it is written:
> 
> "This day came ye out in the month of Abib (Aviv / Nisan)"
> 
>       Therefore, the CIVIL calendar originally existed and God 
> introduced the RELIGIOUS calendar in Exodus 12 when the month of
> Passover is the FIRST MONTH. According to Jewish tradition, the
> world was created on Tishrei 1.
> 
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From:          Joanne
To:            <heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com>
Subject:       Fw: The Jewish Calendar

Eddie:

Please show me from scriptures the proof you use to show that the civil
calendar was in use before Ex 12:1-2....when I Iook up
"month/months"....the only scriptures that I find are Gen 7:11, 8:4-5,
8:13-14, 29:14 and 38:24. None of which show me anything about a civil
calendar beginning on Rosh HaShanah.

Thank you,  
Joanne

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From:          Brooks Brewer 
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: The Jewish Calendar

Shalom.

I can see where the religious calendar was introduced but where was
the civil calendar introduced?

Brooks

>From Eddie:
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     Rosh HaShanah is the head of the year on the civil calendar and 
is also known as the birthday of the world since the world was 
created on this day (Talmud, Rosh HaShanah 11a).

    Jewish traditions believes that Adam was created on the first day 
of Tishrei (Talmud,  San Hedrin 38b). How did they decide that this 
day was the day of the year the world was created? Because the first 
words of the book of Genesis (Bereishit)  "in the beginning" when 
changed around reads, "Aleph B'Tishrei" or "the first of Tishrei". 
Therefore, Rosh HaShanah is known as the birthday of the world for 
tradition tells us that the world was created then (Jewish sources)

    In the Bible the civil calendar is used when talking about the 
months of the year from Genesis 1:1 to Exodus 12:1. After Exodus 12, 
the religious calendar is always used when talking about the months 
of the year.

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