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To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 00:02:12 +0000
Subject: Angels
From: Pamela Jackson
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Book: Angels on Assignment
Dear Mishpachah (family):
I am really greatful and thankful for all of your comments and
concerns in my quest to find a book for my studies. I have and am
really enjoying all of the comments. It strengthens me in my walk and
understanding of the Lord Jesus Christ.
While I was in my bible study class last night(we are continuing the
subject of Angels) a lot of the points that you all have made
concerning Angels and the worship of them and how God sends them at
special times to do some of the works that was said the Holy Spirit
would do. This became a very long discussion in class concerning the
Holy Spirit and Angels.
Again thank you for your comments and please keep them coming.
Oh yeah....if there are any rooter in the Washington D.C (Tri-City)
area please let me know.
Pamela
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From: Judy Clark
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Book: Angels on Assignment
Dear Eddie:
I am new to the newsgroup and have been amazed at the responses from the group
concerning an individual's original request for information on books about angels,
so that she could finish up her Bible school assignment. It seems to be out of
much love and concern, to be sure, that so many responses have come forth. As
believers in Yeshua, and God's Word (the Holy Bible), we must all rely upon the
Holy Spirit and God-given wisdom, knowledge and discernment concerning our search
for knowledge and truth.
We must all use caution and the aforementioned Godly attributes when seeking
knowledge about the supernatural; and as long as we keep our focus Christ-centered
and ourselves centered in Christ, we should be able to study all of God's Word, to
include what He has to say about the ministry of angels.
Many years ago, I too read Roland Buck's book on angels but since so much has been
expressed already, I will not elaborate. I will say that there was a brief period
of time in my life several years ago, when I was fascinated in the "idea" of
angels. I now know that I was being "seduced" into New Ageism, but Praise be to God
and the prescious witness of the Holy Spirit and His Spirit of Truth, satan was
exposed! One night the Holy Spirit would not give me rest and pressed me about the
issue of angels until He had me on my face before God confessing that I would have
no others gods before me! That took care of any angel interest I had at that time.
I will not bow down nor serve any god but the one true God--Jehovah! Now my only
interest in angels is strictly from a biblical perspective.
I did recommend the book "The Truth about Angels" by Terry Law as he does expose
biblical truth and startling facts about God's angels and evil angels. Terry
provides biblical principles about the ministry of God's angels. Again, I am ever
reliant upon the Holy Spirit, the Word of God and availing myself of His wisdom,
knowledge and discernment into all truth. What a wonderful safeguard is our God!
On pages 211, 212, and 213, of his book, Terry Law provides this information:
PROVE ALL THINGS
Believers must not, and nonbelievers should not, accept anything supernatural
without testing its source. Paul said to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that
which is good" (1Thess 5:21) John wrote: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but
try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out
into the world (1John 4:1)
How do you test an angel? You do this by seeing 1)if his visit matches those in the
Bible, 2)if his words line up with the Bible and 3)if the purpose which his visit
achieves is biblical.
Does he tell you he is the spirit of a dead friend or ancestor? In other words,
does he draw your attention to himself or to beings other than Jesus and the
Father?That is not a real angel of God. God's angels never testify of themselves.
Does he bring you revelation that cannot be found in the Bible, say that all
religions are of God and tell you that the hereafter is a good place for everyone?
That is not a real angel of God.
Does he entertain, socialize and hang around after his "assignment" is oer? That
is not a real angel of God.
Does he use spectacular lights, weird sounds or odd odors to get your attention?
That is not a real angel of God. When a real angel appears, he gives you a message
or helps you out of danger----and then vanishes.
Does he flatter you and build up your prode, perhaps telling you how spiritual
you are? That is not an angel of God. An angelic visitation is not proof of
spiritual maturity.
Does he leave you feeling anxious, fearful or confused? That is not an angel of
God.
Does he try to force you to do something against your inner witness? That is not
an angel of God.
Do these encounters bear spritual fruit? Do they cause you to change for the
better in some way? Or are the results harmful to you or those around you? That is
not an angel of God.
If an angel tells you that you can talk to him anytime or call him in some way, or
if he tells you that angels can live within you----he is a counterfeit. Real angels
never become part of you, nor can you ever become an angel. How can you test an
angel if you do not know the Bible? The answer is, you can't! (Terry goes on to say
on page 213 that Knowing the Bible is Essential)
To the group: Remember, this young person needs not only our concern but also our
prayers as she ventures into this study. Please, let's not lose sight of that in
the process of expressing our viewpoints and concerns over the issue of angels.
Eddie, I would like to say that I and my husband have been blessed by your
ministry. Thank you so much and for the Mishpachah (family). Many blessings to all
of you.
With a grateful heart and from one so very blessed to have been called,
Shalom,
Judy
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To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
From: Paul Stringer
Subject: Re: Book: Angels on Assignment
Eddie:
There are angels out there some from G-d and some not from G-d.
The bible tells me that they never take first place or ask man to bow to
them. if there from G-d.i see many men and women looking for
something out there that will give them a new incite into the word. and
what i read there nothing new. it all in the word of G-d. i have a messenger
come to me who was or was not a man and the word given lined up with
the word. the only thing that seem to be different was when we prayed,
it was like we were at the throne room of G-d. what was told to me. i
knew within my heart that G-d had already told this to me and it was
just conformation. Do i believe in angels coming to us. Yes!!!! but
not to be worship. any one who tries to worship a angel and the angel
allows it you can bet it not from G-d.
Paul
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From: Bruce Barham
To: "heb_roots_chr@geocities.com"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject: Angel discussion (my 2 cents)
I've read with interest all the various angel related emails,
primarily with deep disgust and sadness. My comments below
are "tame" compared to what I really think. I've had to tone down
the temptation to really lay it on.
Why the unbelievable facination with created beings - facination that
rivals - and in most cases exceeds - the wonder and facination for
Yeshua and the Living God? I find it deeply disturbing how so many
believers are getting "turned on" to "angels".
I AM CERTAIN THE REAL ANGELS OF GOD ARE VERY, VERY
SADENNED AND DISTURBED BY THE ADORATION, ADMIRATION,
AND ATTENTION SHOWN THEM. THEY WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE
ATTENTION, ADORATION, AND ADMIRATION SHOWN THEIR
CREATOR AND MASTER -THE SAME CREATOR THAT MADE US!!
Frankly, the facination for angels has(in a practical sense) become
idolatry. Torah conscious people, more than others, should be VERY
sensitive to idolatrous tendencies. I'm sure Satan just loves the
attention to angels, especially since much of the discussion,
channeling, visions, etc. involve "angels" sent from him instead of
God. Just like the scriptures say, SATAN, HIMSELF, MASQUERADES AS AN
ANGEL OF LIGHT! How do the self appointed angel experts know the
difference? The arrogance of those that claim to know so much about
angelic beings is sickening. THE SEARCH FOR "ANGELIC" KNOWLEDGE
BORDERS ON THE OCCULT! IN MOST CASES IT'S PURE MYSTICISM. If I am
ever in a position to do so, I will work to forbid angelic facination
in any church for which I serve in leadership.
99 percent of the "facts" about angels are pure speculation. The
scriptures are virtually void of any discussion of their character,
appearance, nature, etc. There is scant info about them, and I
believe that's for a reason - to insure we don't do what so many are
now doing - giving idolatrous adoration to them. To read some of the
garbage out about angels today you'd think the Bible describes their
size, hair color, shoe size, favorite sport, sex, hobbies, wing aspect
ratio, flight endurance record, etc. Let's admit it now - most
authors of angelic-type literature are just out to make a buck! Their
simply stumbling all over each other to pump out books on angels to
pad their own pocket books. And let's face it, many "pastors" and
"Christians" are just as covetous and greedy as anyone else.
Anyone that feels compelled to study angels - that feels some deep
interests to learn about angels - better stop and wonder about where
that motivation is coming from. I doubt VERY MUCH that it's coming
from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit wants us to seek and learn
about Yeshua and the Living God of Israel - not their servants. Such
angelic motivation (in my opinion) originates with Satan as one of his
countless ways with which he seeks to separate us from God by drawing
our focus away from the Lord and toward "divers spirits".
There is more to learn about Yeshua, Torah, and the Father than we
could possibly accomplish in 100 lifetimes. Why don't all the angel
seekers seek Yeshua? Why don't the angel worshippers/adorers worship
and adore Yeshua? I'm sure the TRUE angels, as well as the Lord,
would be far more pleased if we focus our efforts for knowledge and
our worship toward the Creator - not the creature.
Bruce
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From: Emilie Kitteringham
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Book: Angels on Assignment
What did I find in the book, "Angels on Assignment" that the devil
does not want us to know?
Chapter 6; God's Priorities - First Priority: The Blood of Jesus -
The Passover of the Lord, Second Priority; Fellowship and Communion
with God - The Festival of Unleavened Bread, Third Priority: Jesus is
Alive! - The Festival of First Fruits, Fourth Priority: The Promise
of the Holy Spirit - The Restival of Pentecost, Fifth Priority: Go
Tell the World - The Festival of Trumpets, Sixth Priority: Atonement
of Jesus is Everlasting - The Day of Atonement, (This really blessed
me) Seventh Priority: The Return of Jesus - The Festival of
Tabernacles.
Chapter 8; You are Covered! (Atonement) ( Under the Protection of the
Blood of Jesus)
Chapter 14; He is Coming Again! (Jesus is Coming!)
I must say, although some of the book is about the angelic
visitations, there is also a good message of salvation in the book.
The book points mankind to Jesus, not angels.
Psalms 8:5 says; For thou hast made him a little lower than the
angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Besides all that, Look to Jesus who shed His blood for our Redemption,
But I still like to read about people who have visited heaven or have
had angel visitations. We are striving to get to heaven to be with God
and Jesus, but the angels will also be there. They are not leaving
because we are coming.
Even when we read about angels, keep your mind on God!
Emilie
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