Subject: Re: Leaven Bread Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 23:20:22 +0000 To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
> > From: J. Malcolm > To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com > Subject: Leaven Bread > > I am requesting help concerning my response to the explanation given, > justifying the use of a leavened loaf of bread to serve as the example of I > Cor. 11: 23. It was stated that the word in the Greek used here was artos > (740) from airo (142) as listed in Strongs. It was a raised loaf of bread > that signified the risen Lord. My research has revealed something other that > this to me, but I would appreciate those more qualified than myself to give > proper response to this perspective. > From: Daniel Segard To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: Leaven Bread Yes, it would seem strange for it to be anything other than unleavened bread. Unleavened bread has holes through it "He was pierced for our transgrations" and has stripes "By His stripe ye are healed". And bread with leavening would tear rather than "break". Also leavening is often the symbol of sin, which isn't exactly the analogy which we would wish to see. And if this was Passover, certainly the Giver of the Law would not violate the Law. Though this might give credence to those who claim that the crucifixion was at the same time the Passover lambs were being killed, which would mean that the "last supper" was before the days of unleavened bread had begun. ****************************************************************** From: Hadassah Israella To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: Leaven Bread Shalom, In regards to your question on 1 Cor. 11:23 .I am not familiar with Greek but the text is NOT refering to every day ussage of bread . It states the night Y'shua was betrayed he took [MATZAH] bread. Matzah is the bread that Jewish people eat on Passover, it does not contain any leaven. The Messiah was betrayed on Passover .The word bread is not always in the right context. To understand what matzah is you need to go to the book of Shemot {Exodus}, in chapter 12 :1-28 HaShem commands the children Yisrael to prepare for the Paschal lamb and how it is to be eaten. "The Pesach was to be a memorial for all generations,and to be observed for EVERLASTING.Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses. For whoever eats leavened bread , from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Yisrael"( .vv. 14b-15.) In verse 20, the command to not eat unleaven bread is repeated "You shall eat nothing leavened; in all of your dwellings you shall eat unleavened bread' also in verse 24 the command to observe with your sons forever, gets overlooked by the Christian community. If you have access to a Jewish Brit Chadasah(New Testement) by David H. Stern will help you understand the customs the the Jewish people andthe life that Messiah Y'shua . In 1Cor.5:6-8 talks about leavening this way "Your boasting is no good. Don't you know the saying,"It takes only a little chametz to leaven the whole batch of dough?" Get rid of the old chametz, so that you can be a new batch of dough, because in reality you are unleavened. For our Pesach lamb, the Messiah has been sacrificed. So let us celebrate the Seder not with leftover chametz, the chametz of wickedness and evil, but with the matzah of purity". This is quoted from Jewish New Testement by David H. Stern . The word chametz refers to yeast or leavened bread . The Seder is the Pesach (Passover) The Messiah was a devout Jew by observing Pesach and all that is insribebed in the Torah. I hope that this helps you as you search for the truth. In Messiah Y'shua, Hadassah Israella >From Eddie: ************** In I Corinthians 11:24-25 it is written: "For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me" The account of this is in Luke 22. In Luke 22:7-8, 14-15, 19 it is written: "Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the PASSOVER must be killed. And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the PASSOVER, that we may eat ... and when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. And he said unto them, with desire I have desired to eat this PASSOVER with you before I suffer ... and he took BREAD, and gave thanks, and broke it, and gave unto them, saying, this is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." The text is very clear that this was a PASSOVER SEDER meal. Only Matzah (unleavened bread) was allowed to be eaten for the Passover Seder meal. In my book, "The Seven Festivals of the Messiah", on the chapter which teaches about Passover, I have a section entitled, 'Did Yeshua/Jesus have a Passover meal?". There are fifteen steps in the Passover Seder. They are: 1) Kaddesh and the first cup (Sanctification) 2) U-r'chatz (the washing of hands) 3) Karpas (this word means parsley, green herbs). This refers to the place in the Seder when the celebrants dip a green vegetable in salt water and eat it. In John 13:26 it is written: "Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a SOP when I have DIPPED it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon" 4) Yachatz (the breaking of the bread) 5) Maggid (the telling of the Passover story) 6) Rachtzah (the washing of hans with a blessing) 7) Motzi (the blessing over bread) 8) Matzah (the matzah is blessed and eaten) 9) Maror (bitter herbs are blessed and eaten) 10) Korech (the matzah and maror are eaten together) 11) Shulchan Orech (the meal is eaten) 12) Tzafun (the afikomen that was hidden is found, ransomed, and then eaten) 13) Barech (grace after meals) 14) Hallel (Psalm 115-118) 15) Nirtzah (all is finished). A final SONG is sung, Next year in Jerusalem! In Matthew 26:30, it is written: "And when they had SUNG A HYMN, they went out into the mount of Olives" The blessing for the bread is spoken of in Luke 22:19. The blessing over the cup is spoken of in Luke 22:17. In Chapter 4 on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, I talk about the ceremony called, "Bedikat HaMetz", the ceremony of searching and REMOVING LEAVEN from your house (your possession) BEFORE Passover. From the text, it is VERY CLEAR that Yeshua/Jesus and his disciples has a Passover Seder meal. Yeshua/Jesus told his disciples to prepare the PASSOVER (Luke 22:8). In Luke 22:14-15, Yeshua/Jesus told his disciples that He desired to eat the PASSOVER with them before he suffered. The "LAST SUPPER" is the Passover Seder meal. Judas dipped the sop (John 13:26). This is a step in the Passover Seder service. The service ends with a song/hymn. This can be seen in Matthew 26:30. Therefore, very clearly Yeshua/Jesus had a Passover Seder meal with his disciples. Would he have eaten leaven bread prior to Passover (in preparation for Passover --- Bedikat HaMetz) or during the Passover Seder meal? NO WAY! Yeshua/Jesus was/is a Torah observant Orthodox Rabbi! Therefore, the bread that Yeshua/Jesus ate at his last supper (Passover Seder) would have to be unleavened bread (Matzah). Much confusion comes from not understanding the custom of Passover. During the days of Yeshua/Jesus, there was a standing Temple. Since there was a standing Temple, a Passover lamb was slain. In the days of Yeshua/Jesus because there was a Temple, the first Seder was held on the evening of the 14th of Nisan. The second Seder was held on the 15th of Nisan. The Lamb would have to be eaten by midnight of the 14th of Nisan. Therefore, Jesus/Yeshua was able to have a Passover Seder meal with his disciples the evening of the 14th and be the Passover Lamb for the nation at 3PM on the 14th of Nisan. (The Jewish day begins at sundown and goes until sundown the next day). Therefore, Yeshua/Jesus had his Passover Seder meal with his disciples and was slain on the same day (14th of Nisan). Today, there is no Temple. Therefore, no Passover Lamb is slain. A shankbone of a lamb (called the zeroah which means arm) is placed on the Passover Seder plate in REMEMBRANCE of the Passover Lamb that was slain. Today, the traditional Judaism, the First Seder is held on Nisan 15 and the second Seder is held on Nisan 16. Blessed be THE LAMB of God (Yeshua/Jesus) who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29) ************************************************************************