Subject: Who is "all Israel"? / Jewish blood to be the Bride
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:45:37 +0000
To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
From: Heather Montalbano
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Jewish Blood to be the Bride?
>
>OK, now I'm really confused. Or rather I guess I phrased my question
>wrongly. I know the Gentiles have to accept Yeshua in order to be
>grafted in to the Jewish olive tree and be redeemed, but I was under
>the impression that "all Israel will be saved" whether they appear to
>accept Yeshua while on earth or not. They are temporarily blinded
>and look forward to the Messiah, they just don't recognize Him.
>
>From Eddie:
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Heather,
The Bible never teaches that every Jew BECAUSE they are born
a Jew will be saved. Some Jews are atheists, some are Buddists, some
are Moslem, some follow the New age etc. Having these beliefs and
following these ways will not merit you being in the World to Come.
If Jews could be atheists and still be in the World to Come then
couldn't non-Jewish atheists be in the World to Come also? The same
argument for Buddists, Moslem's, New Agers etc.
Acts 4:10-12 is very clear what we need to do to merit being
in the World to Come as it is written:
"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God
raised from the dead, even by him this man stand here before you
whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders,
which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in
any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men,
whereby we MUST be saved"
In Hebrews 9:27 it is written:
"And as it is appointed unto men ONCE to die, but after this the
judgment"
Jews who die as atheists, Buddists, Moslems, New Agers etc, don't get
a "second chance" to be in the World to Come.
Does "All Israel" (Romans 11:26) mean every natural born Jew
who ever lived? The answer is no. In Romans 9:3, 6-8 it is written:
"For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my
brethren, my kinsmen according to the FLESH (natural born Jews) ...
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are
NOT all Israel, which are of Israel (natural born Jews): Neither
because they are the seed of Abraham (according to the flesh), are
they all children (of Israel): but, In ISAAC shall thy seed be
called. That is, they which are the children of the FLESH (who do not
believe), these are NOT the children of God: but the children of the
PROMISE are counted for the seed"
In Romans 9:30-33, it is written:
"What shall we say then? That the Gentiles (that believe that
Yeshua/Jesus is Messiah), which followed not after righteousness (as a
corporate people ever believed in the God of Israel before the coming
of the Messiah), even the righteousness which is by FAITH (in Messiah
and believe in the God of Israel). But Israel (natural born Jews who
do not believe that Yeshua/Jesus is Messiah), which followed after
the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness
(believing that Yeshua/Jesus is Messiah). Wherefore?
BECAUSE they sought it NOT by FAITH, but as it were by the
works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone: As it is
written: Behold, I lay in Zion, a stumblingstone and a rock of
offence: and whosoever believeth on HIM shall NOT be ashamed"
In Romans 2:28-29, it is written:
"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly (just by being born a
Jew means that you will merit being in the World to Come): neither is
that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh (neither does
keeping the physical act of circumcision merit you being in the World
to Come), but he is a (spiritual) Jew (praiser of God), which is one
inwardly: and circumcision is that of the heart (spiritually), in the
spirit not in the letter: whose praise (a Jew means a praiser of God)
is not of men, but of God"
So, the Bible is very clear that by being born a natural Jew does not
merit you being in the World to Come. BOTH Jews and non-Jews MUST
accept Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah (Acts 4:12). Natural born Jews who
accept Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah REMAIN a part of the natural root.
Non-Jewish believer in Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah are GRAFTED into the
natural root. SPIRITUALLY, both Jewish and non-Jewish believers in
Messiah are "all Israel".
So, who is "all Israel" that will be saved? It is natural born Jews
who accept Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah and non-Jewish believer in
Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah who are grafted into the natural branch.
Does God still have an end-time plan for the physical nation of
Israel and those Jews who do not yet believe that Yeshua/Jesus is
Messiah? The answer is YES. This is CENTRAL to end-time Bible
prophecy. Will ALL Jews who live in the physical nation of Israel
today believe that Yeshua/Jesus is Messiah ("all Israel" will be saved
... Romans 11:26)? The answer is NO! SOME will not believe and accept
the false Messiah.
The Bible says that 2/3 of Israel will be "cut off" during the
end-times. In Zechariah 13:8-9, it is written:
"And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two
parts therein shall be cut off and die: but the third shall be left
therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will
refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is
my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God"
In Jeremiah 30:5-7, it is written:
"For thus saith the Lord: We have heard a voice of trembling, of
fear, and not of peace. Ask ye now, and see whether a man does
travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on
his loins, as a woman in travail and all faces are turned into
paleness? Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is
even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it"
It IS the end-time plan of God that the physical nation of Israel
will accept Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah after they are brought through
the tribulation period and God saves the physical nation of Israel
from her enemies around about her.
>
>That is why I asked about the percentage of Jewish blood
>needed to be included in the "all" of Israel that is saved.
>
>From Eddie:
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The only Jewish blood that you need to be included in
"all" Israel will be saved is apply the blood of the Jewish Messiah
upon your heart by faith. This is all the "Jewish blood" that you need
to merit being in the World to Come.
>
> I believe in your book on the Bride you make it clear that those Jews who
>accept Yeshua will be part of the Bride, and those who don't will still be in
>the Kingdom but further out in the courtyard.
>
>From Eddie:
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I never stated in the book that those Jews who do not believe
in Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah will be in the World to Come yet be in
the outer courtyard. I never said this nor did I imply it. However,
those Jews who do believe that Yeshua/Jesus is Messiah are able to be
the Bride of Messiah.
>
>My question is how much Jewish
>blood will get you into the courtyard of the kingdom? It sounds like a
>reasonable question to me. Thank you for your help.
>
> Sincerely, Heather
>
>From Eddie:
**************
You need to apply the blood of the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua
HaMashiach (Jesus Christ) shed upon the tree upon your heart by faith
accepting HIM as your personal Lord and Savior. This is all the
"Jewish blood" that you need to enter into the World to Come.
After we do this, then it is a matter of John 14:15:
"If you love me, keep my commandments"
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