Subject: Three Days and Three Nights!
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:46:24 +0000
To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
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> From: Brenna Moore
> To: <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
> Subject: Re: Time Line of Yeshua's Crucifixion, Burial &
> Resurrection
>
> I have to agree with the Wednesday Crucifixion. For one thing if
> Jesus was crucified on Thursday that would mean that there would
> have been back to back Sabbaths. The high Sabbath on Friday, then
> the weekly Sabbath.
>
> There was no way that the women could have bought the spices to annoint
> His body. They were observant Jews and there would have been no
> place for them to buy the spices even if they did break the
> Commandment. Yeshua DID say that He would rise in three days-72
> hours. That means He died on Wednesday at 3:00 and rose on
> Sabbath at 3:00. The women came early (I believe still Saturday
> night early Sunday morning) to annoint His body and Yeshua had already risen.
>
> I believe that our whole problem with not understanding the
> Wednesday crucifixion and Sabbath resurrection is cause by a
> misunderstanding That the Festival of First Fruits takes place
> during the week of Passover on the
> day after the Sabbath, Sunday. The Festival of First Fruits- Ha
> Bikkurim is the same as the Festival of Shavout. It does not take
> place within the Passover week. You can find this information in
> Leviticus 23. During the Passover week God told His people to
> begin to count fifty days starting after the Sabbath. I believe
> that He was talking about the High Sabbath.
>
> In Leviticus 23:10 the word firstfruits IS mentioned. However, when
> you look up the word in the Strong's IT IS NOT Ha Bikkurim, it is
> the word reshiyth ( #7225). However,
> in Leviticus 23:17 after the fifty days were counted we find that
> the Scriptures mentions another firstfruits. This time it is the
> word bikkoor (#1061). There is a Festival of First Fruits-- Ha
> Bikkurim, it is also known as Pentecost or Shavout. I have ask
> three different Rabbi's when the Festival of First Fruits takes
> place and all three say that it is the same
> as Shavout. I honestly believe if you take the time to study the
> Word of G-d you will find that Yeshua WAS crucified on Wednesday
> and resurrected on Sabbath.
>
> I urge everyone out there to study it for yourselves.
>
> Thankyou and Shalom!
> Brenna Moore
> Beth Shalom Ministries
>
>
From: Cheryl Wilson
To: <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: Time Line of Yahshua's Crucifixion, Burial &
Resurrection
To Brenna Moore,
I agree that Yahshua was crucified on Wednesday, but we must read the
scripture carefully to determine when he arose. Remember, He said he
would be in the "heart of the earth" three days and three nights, not
"dead" three days and three nights. Therefore, since his body was
buried in the evening, (Mark 15:42-46), He arose in the evening three
days and three nights later.
Cheryl
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To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Three Days and Three Nights!
From: Fern O Carlson
To Brenna Moore:
Shalom! I, too, agree with the Wednesday crucifixion. I also believe
Y'shua died at 3:00 pm. Does your Bible say He would be DEAD for three
days and three nights? or does it say He would be in the EARTH (tomb)
for three days and three nights? I believe by the time they got
permision to take the Body down, prepare it with strips of linen cloth
dipped in many pounds of myrrh and aloes, and place it in the tomb - it
was just minutes before sunset and the beginning of the high Sabbath.
That makes Him still rising on Shabbat. In the morning when the women
came HE WAS ALREADY GONE! Praise G-d for His wonderful plan of salvation
(Y'shua!) U'vrachim,
Fern Carlson
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From: marty adcock
To: <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject: The Feast of Firstfruits
I appreciated Brenna Moore's response to the "Time Line of Yeshua's
Crucifixion, Burial & Resurrection". But I have to say I disagree with
the point of The Feast of Firstfruits not being the same week of
Passover.
Because I don't read Hebrew, I must rely on an English
version of the Tanakh. I am using here "The New JPS Translation
According To The Traditional Hebrew Text", put out by The Jewish
Publication Society.
Reading from the Torah, Leviticus 23:4-8 talks
about the Passover, then 23:9-14, talks about Firstfruits. But let's
not stop there. Leviticus 23:15 & 16, tell us "And from the day on
which you bring the sheaf of elevation offering - THE DAY AFTER THE
SABBATH - YOU SHALL COUNT OFF SEVEN WEEKS. They must be complete: (16)
you must count until the day after the seventh week - fifty days; then
you shall bring an offering of new grain to the LORD".(caps are mine)
Maybe I am the one that is confused, but I think Yeshua's resurrection
took place on The Feast of Firstfruits, and this is what Sha'ul (Paul)
is referring to in 1 Corinthians 15:12-23. In verse 20 & 23, he says;
(20)"But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the
firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep". (23)"But each one in his
own order: Christ the firstfruit, afterward those who are Christ's at
His coming".
I first became interested in the Time Line of Yeshua's
Crucifixion, Burial & Resurrection, some years back while I was
teaching a Covenant study. People would ask me how it was possible for
Yeshua to be crucified and buried on Friday, and be resurrected on
Sunday, when He was supposed to be in the tomb for three days. I could
not answer their question, so I began to study. I found that I had to
look at Scripture through Jewish eyes, after all it was written by
Jews to Jews, We as Gentiles seem to think that the church was Gentile
from it's beginning, but not so. The Gentiles were grafted into the
natural olive tree (Israel), not the other way around. The church will
never replace Israel! I think this is where so many of us Gentiles are
confused, we don't know our Jewish heritage. Any way see what you
think, and let me know.
Marty Adcock
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From: Dan ben Avraham
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Time Line of Yeshua's Crucifixion, Burial &
Resurrection
Dear Family:
Shabat Shalom!
According with Lev. 23: 9-14 the OMER began with the presentation of
the FIRST SHEAF at the Temple ( See Deut. 26:2). In Yeshua's time, it
was great controversy between Pharisees and Saducees on Lev. 23:11.
What means "on the morrow after the day of rest"? Saducees believed it
refers to weekly Shabath. Pharisees believed it was "the day of
cessation from work" thus it was the special Shabath ( First Day of
Unlevened Bread). But do not confuse the FIRST SHEAF with Bikkurim.
The presentation of the FIRST SHEAF at the Temple, began the
celebration but it extended to Shavuot and even Sukkot ( See Deut.
16:9). So Yeshua is the FIRST SHEAF of the Resurrection, and after
Him, like Ja/Bikkurim festival, the rest of the believers ( See 1
Cor. 15:23).
Shabath Shalom to all.
Dan ben Avraham.
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From: Henry Hodgens
To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject: Re: Time Line of Yeshua's Crucifixion, Burial &
Resurrection
Brenna,
While we agree that Yeshua probably died on a Wednesday afternoon, we
see that the three days and nights must then be based on inclusive
reckoning since the "original" Greek manuscript ('The New Testament in
the Original Greek According to the Text Followed in the Authorized
Version', edited by F.A. Scrivener) actually reads:
"After the sabbaths (G4521, Strongs), at the dawning into the
first of the sabbaths, Mary Magdelene and the other Mary came to the
grave." Mat.28:1
Similarly, John reads:
"But on the first of the sabbaths (G4521) Mary Magdelene came
early to the tomb, darkness yet being on it." John 20:1
It is understood by us that the "first of the sabbaths" is the first
sabbath in the counting of seven sabbaths to Shavuot (Pentacost).
Mark and Luke are a little more difficult to decipher since the
translators render the Greek, sabbaton (G4521 -- same word in the
Strongs) as the "first of the week". Also, recall that the solemn
assembly (Feast) days were called sabbaths. Thus, substituting the
"correct" definitions we arrive at:
"And the (high holy day) sabbath (G4521) passing Mary Magdelene
and Mary the mother of James and Salome, brought spices, so that
coming they might anoint Him. And very early on the (seventh
day) sabbath (G4521), the sun having (just) risen, they came
upon the tomb." Mark 16:1-2
"And it was Preparation Day, and a (high holy day) sabbath
(G4521) was coming on.
And also women were following, who were accompanying Him out of
Galilee, who watched the tomb, and how His body was placed. And
returning (home), they prepared spices and ointment. And they
remained quiet on the (high holy day) sabbath (G4521) according
to the commandment. But on the (seventh day) sabbath (G4521),
while still very early, they came on the tomb, carrying spices
which they prepared; and some were with them." Luke 23:54 -
24:1.
Hope this helps.
In HaShem Yeshua,
Henry Hodgens
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From: Malcolm Isted
To: <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject: Time line of Yeshua's crucifixion, burial and
resurrection
Response to Brenna Moore, Beth Shalom Ministries:
The question of the timing of the death and resurrection of Yeshua is
of paramount importance to the Christian faith, for if Yeshua did
not rise on the third day as promised, He was not "a greater than
Jonah" (Matt 12:41). This sign of Jonah is of equal importance to
the nation of Israel, for in looking to their national Redemption,
the prophet Hosea said, "After two days He will revive us; on the
third day He will raise us up" (Hos 6:2). If Yeshua was not raised
up on time, neither will Israel.
It is ironic that the national spiritual redemption of the Jewish
people is dependant on that very thing which their leaders so
vehemently denied, the resurrection of Yeshua.
As for its timing, Yeshua was undoubtedly in the grave for "thee
days and three nights" or 72 hours, and the "two days" of Hosea are
obviously interpreted through Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8, where one
day = is equivalent to a thousand years. Since these are prophetic
years, the = time that Israel will spend in her spiritual grave is 2
000 years or = 2000 x 360 =3D 720 000 days. The numbers are
significant; 72 hours for = Yeshua, 720 000 days for Israel.
I believe that the sign of Jonah as it applies to Yeshua, the
Jewish Messiah, and the Jewish people, can be further interpreted
through numbers. Since this is unknown to many, I will only deal with a
simple example here.
In his book, The Coming Prince, Sir Robert Anderson established
that Yeshua fulfilled the sixty-ninth week of Daniel on Palm Sunday, 6
April 32 AD. He was therefore crucified on Wednesday 9 April, and
resurrected on 12 April, the Jewish Sabbath (as you rightly point
out). I have only a small contention with you concerning the time,
for it would seem that the words of Yeshua "in the heart of the
earth" are the parameters of this sign. In other words, the 72
hours stretch from the time that Yeshua's body was placed in the
tomb (the heart of the earth) and not the time of His death. They
therefore expire at the end of the Sabbath day which is also the
beginning of the first day of the week, Sunday.
From a numerical perspective, the date of the resurrection can be
encoded by multiplication: 12 [day] x 04 [month] x 32 [year] =3D 1 536
This is the same number as the multiplied gematria of Hosea's
words; "After two days He will revive us." For convenience, the
Hebrew words are transliterated into English. Their alphabetical
values are shown in brackets. This is gematria.
YCHYNU [He will revive us] MYMYM [after two days]
Y (10) CH (8) Y (10) N (50) U (6) M (40) Y (10) M (40) Y (10) M
(40) =3D 1 536 [000..]
Unfortunately I cannot take the matter further here (for there are
many who resist these numerics, believing that this is kabbala).
Suffice to say that encoded in the Greek word for Yeshua, IESOU, is
the number 1 769 472, which is the numerical equivalent of the
encoded dates of His death and resurrection:
Death on Wednesday: 9 [day] x 04 [month] x 32 [year] =3D 1 152
Resurrection on Sabbath: 12 [day] x 04 [month] x 32 [year] =3D 1
536 1 152 [Death] x 1 536 [Resurrection] =3D 1 769 472
The apostle Paul teaches us that Christ is the firstfruits of the
resurrection (1 Cor 15:21-22). The difficulty of a Sunday
resurrection can be overcome by placing this day in its Jewish
context, ie., that Sunday begins at sunset on the Saturday. The
resurrection of Christ now occurs at the intersection of the Jewish
Sabbath and Christian Sabbath and supports the widely accepted belief
that He was resurrected on the Feast of Firstfruits in the Passover
week.
Malcolm Isted
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