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Subject:  Re: Virgin Birth II
Date:     Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:35:20 +0000
From:     heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Reply-To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
To:       "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>



From:         David Becherer <bozrah@beasley.concentric.net>
Reply-to:     bozrah@beasley.concentric.net
Organization: IMAGE IN THE GLASS
To:           heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:      Re: Virgin Birth


The difference is pretty simple, really..


as far as I can see, Matthew was a Jew, and was interested in presenting
Jesus as MESSIAH, according to the PROMISE given to Abraham.  He
primarily focuses on what Jesus SAID.  His Genaology shows Jesus'
"pedigree," beginning with ABRAHAM, who was promised a seed through
which all the nations would be blessed. From there he traces it through
the line of promise through Isaac and Jacob, and then through Judah, the
royal line to Joseph going from David to his son Solomon, and so on.
However, during the period of Kings, they got so wicked and corrupt that
God pronounced a blood curse on the line.  This presents a problem,
because messiah was promised to be of the house of David. For many, this
would have destroyed the messianic hope.  However, God gave AHAZ a sign,
saying that the virgin would conceive...

Luke was a physician, and was interested in displaying Christ's
humanity.  He concentrated specifically on what Jesus FELT.  He traces
the DNA from ADAM to Mary, making a "left turn" at David through his
OTHER son Nathan.  Therefore, by marriage, Jesus is of the royal line
through joseph, and still born of the house of David as was promised.

A while ago, I listened to a chuck missler tape that goes through some
of this, and he went through the translations of the names for the first
10 people in the genealogy from Adam to Noah.  Building on that, a
friend of mine translated the rest of the genealogy of christ as it's
laid out in the bible.. pretty interesting, so here's what he came up
with (hope you're interested..)
ADAM MAN   SHEM HIS HONORED NAME
SETH APPOINTED   APPHASHAD SPREAD
ENOSH MORTAL   SALAH BRANCH, WEAPON
KENAN SORROW   EBER CROSS
MAHALEL BLESSED GOD   PELEG EARTHQUAKE
JARED SHALL COME DOWN   REU FRIEND, RULER
ENOCH TEACHING   SERUG BRING TOGETHER
METHUS.. HIS DEATH SHALL BRING      
LAMECH LAMENTABLE      
NOAH HOPE      
         
NAHOR SNORT, ROAR   HEZRON COURT, TOWER
TERAH PLACE, ABODE   RAM HIGH, RAISED
ABRAHAM FATHER OF NATIONS   AMMINADAB PEOPLE OF FREEDOM
ISAAC LAUGHTER, JOY   NASHON CLOTHING, RAIMENT
ISRAEL RULES AS GOD   BOAZ STRENGTH, MIGHT
JUDAH CELEBRATE, PRAISE   OBED SERVE
PAHREZ/ZARAH BREACH/RISING   JESSE EXTEND
DAVID BELOVED      
SOLOMON PEACE      
(JEDIDIAH) BELOVED OF YAH      
(Gen 5;Gen 10,11; ICh 1-3; MT 1:1-16; LU 3:23-38)

Man was appointed mortal sorrow.  The blessed God shall come down,
teaching that his death shall bring lamentable hope.  By his honored
name, he spreads forth the branches of his cross like a weapon.  The
earth shakes as our mighty ruler and friend brings us together!  Then he
snorts, roaring out of the place of his abode. Laughing with joy, he
prevails.  Ruling as God, he is celebrated and praised, having risen
from the breach.  From his court towers the Most High freed his people
the deceiving enchater, clothing them with a raiment of strength and
might.  He extended himself to serve his beloved. Peace to the Beloved
of God!

For the split in the bloodlines, I'm just going to put the translations
he came up with. I'm typing this from a sheet of paper because I don't
have the original file handy, and it's taking forever.  I encourage any
language experts to look these up and check these out. ..we're certainly
not language experts, so you might get somewhat of a different
rendering, if not more accurate ..these were a bit more difficult for
us...

I think they are letters from a kinsman and a bridegroom,  one appears
to be to Israel and one appears to be the church.

LEGAL LINE,  DAVID, Solomon —> Y'SHUA
Beloved,

In peaceful times - the people are enlarged.  God the Father gathers
them together, to be judged by Him, or saved by Him [raised anew]
(Suddenly) the lord seizes them, burns up (and refines) them (by his)
mighty strength and power.  To help (and) perfect them (in His
Likeness).  Our Lord and master has strengthened (us), (revealing
himself) and causing us to forget our (past) up-bringing.  We are (now)
founded by the Lord, the God of Resurrection.  Yea, he will re-establish
us - for we have called to Him from out of Babylon.  The Father of
Glory, (even this) God will raise us again. Helping the just and
righteous and redeeming us. the great, majestic God - God is our
protector, rewarder, restrainer and eternal provider.

BLOOD LINE- DAVID, Nathan --> Y'shua.  (this one is beautiful.)

Beloved,

Bestowed (upon us - is our) Lord's great gift, alioted  (to us) is the
wonderful Comforter, retsrainer and hidden manna). to His Favoured (the
holy dove and new wine) - increasing - His glory (that we may hear and
understand - (how He has) united us in His gifts.  God has brought forth
a guardian - to mount (blessings on the) watchful, adorning (His)
[called-out people with His faithful witness] - (through His) King, the
light (of the world).  "I have asked God" from (out of my confusion) to
heal (His) favored [maiden/bride].  (He has) honored (her) and
magniified (her) - (through his) famous [annunciation]. The gift of Yah,
(Oh) wondrous grace, (oh) shining glory, "I turn my eyes to see God's
(face) " - (knowing) His comforting guide  is strong (enough to bear the
burden) - (of) increasing rage (against His) King.  He joined (us by
his) grace (giving the Highest, perfect [offering] - (for all)
rebellion; Jesus Christ.

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