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Subject: Names Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:31:24 -0600
Originally from: Andrew Harmon <drewski@indy.net>
TWELVE TRIBES MESSAGE? Andrew Harmon
The following is one of those neat treasures hidden just below
the surface of the english text. This of course, like the Noahic
genealogy message, and Torah codes, could just be coincidence (somehow,
I think not!). And the message does require a few small, parenthetical
insertions for coherency. Someone else may have better insights in
"translating" the message.
As in the Noahic message, the "translation/translator" runs up
against a divergent rendering of a name between lexical sources. In the
Noahic message the "stumblingblock" is Methuselah, and is a serious one.
Most sources translate his mane as "man of the dart / javelin". Jone's
Lexicon of Old Testament Proper Names (which, I intend to trundle out
and procure soon) goes with"his death shall bring [it]" which, in
context makes an awful lot of sense.
In our "12 tribes message" Judah presents the greater, but not
insurmountable difficulty; the referece materials yielding "G-d will
lead / May he be praised / celebrated".
Strong's Tribe Translation _______________________________________________
7205 Reuben See a son/ See ye a son
8095 Simeon [G-d] has heard
3878 Levi Joined
3063 Judah G-d will lead /May he be prised /
celebrated
3485 Issachar Rewarded / He will bring a reward 2074 Zebulun Dwelling 1144 Benjamin Son of the right hand / Son of the South
1835 Dan Judge 5321 Naphtali Wrestling 1408 Gad Fortune / Troop 836 Asher Happy / Blessed 3130 Joseph Let him add / May [G-d] add [children]
669 Ephraim Double fruit 4519 Manasseh Causing to forget
The message....
See ye a son! [G-d] has heard [and] joined [him]. G-d will lead [him]. He will bring a [the] reward [of G-d's] habitation. [the] Son of the right hand [is G-d's] judge, wrestling against a troop, blessed with double fruit, causing to forget. (Our iniquities, presumably).
OR...
See ye a son! [G-d] has heard [and] joined [him]. [He is] praised and celebrated, [and will] bring the reward of [G-d's ] habitation. [the] Son of the south (i.e. Judah) [is G-d's] judge, wrestling against a troop, blessed with double fruit, causing to forget.
OR EVEN...
See ye a son! [G-d] has heard [and] joined [him]. G-d will lead [him]. He will bring a reward. [G-d's] habitation [is in the] Son of the right hand; [His] judge [who] wrestles against a troop. Blessed with double fruit, causing to forget.
Attached below is another man's work on the entire genealogy of Yeshua (which obviously contains the aformentioned Noahic message!) I have taken the liberty of inserting "[the despairing]" into Mr. Becherer's translation.
______________________________________________ From: David Becherer <bozrah@beasley.concentric.net>
as far as I can see, Matthew was a Jew, and was interested in presenting Jesus as MESSIAH, according to the PROMISE given to Abraham. He primarily focuses on what Jesus SAID. His Genaology shows Jesus' "pedigree," beginning with ABRAHAM, who was promised a seed through which all the nations would be blessed. From there he traces it through the line of promise through Isaac and Jacob, and then through Judah, the royal line to Joseph going from David to his son Solomon, and so on. However, during the period of Kings, they got so wicked and corrupt that G-d pronounced a blood curse on the line. This presents a problem, because messiah was promised to be of the house of David. For many, this would have destroyed the messianic hope. However, G-d gave AHAZ a sign, saying that the virgin would conceive...
Luke was a physician, and was interested in displaying Christ's humanity. He concentrated specifically on what Jesus FELT. He traces the DNA from Adam to Mary, making a "left turn" at David through his OTHER son Nathan. Therefore, by marriage, Jesus is of the royal line through Joseph, and still born of the house of David as promised.
A while ago, I listened to a Chuck Missler tape that goes through some of this, and he went through the translations of the names for the first 10 people in the genealogy from Adam to Noah. Building on that, a friend of mine translated the rest of the genealogy of Christ as it's laid out in the bible.. pretty interesting, so here's what he came up with (hope you're interested..)
Adam Man Seth Appointed Enosh Mortal Kenan Sorrow Mahalel Blessed G-d Jared Shall come down Enoch Teaching Methusalah His death shall bring Lamech Lamentable [the despairing] Noah Hope Shem His Honored Name Apphashad Spread Salah Branch, Weapon Eber Cross Peleg Earthquake Reu Friend, Ruler Serug Bring Together Nahor Snort, Roar Terah Place, abode Abraham Father of nations Isaac Laughter, joy Israel Rules as G-d Judah Celebrate, Praise Pahrez/Zarah Breach/Rising Solomon Peace (Jedidiah Beloved of Yah
Hezron Court, tower Ram High, Raised up Amminadab People of freedom Nashon Clothing, Raiment Boaz Strength, Might Obed Serve Jesse Extend David Beloved
(Gen 5;Gen 10,11; 1Ch 1-3; Mt 1:1-16; Lu 3:23-38)
Man was appointed mortal sorrow. The blessed G-d shall come down, teaching that his death shall bring lamentable [the despairing] hope. By his honored name, he spreads forth the branches of his cross like a weapon. The earth shakes as our mighty ruler and friend brings us together! Then he snorts, roaring out of the place of his abode. Laughing with joy, he prevails. Ruling as G-d, he is celebrated and praised, having risen from the breach. From his court towers the Most High freed his people the deceiving enchater, clothing them with a raiment of strength and might. He extended himself to serve his beloved. Peace to the Beloved of G-d!. ---- For the split in the bloodlines, I'm just going to put the translations he came up with. I'm typing this from a sheet of paper because I don't have the original file handy, and it's taking forever. I encourage any language experts to look these up and check these out.. we're certainly not language experts, so you might get somewhat of a different rendering, if not more accurate... these were a bit more difficult for us...
I think they are letters from a kinsman and a bridegroom. one appears to be to Israel and one appears to be the Church.
LEGAL LINE, DAVID, Solomon--> Y'Shua
Beloved, in peaceful times- the people are enlarged. G-d the Father gathers them together, to be judged by HIM, or saved by Him [raised anew] (suddenly) the lord seized them, burns up (and refines) them (by his) mighty strength and power. To help (and) perfect them (in His Likeness). Our L-rd and master has strengthened (us), (revealing himself) and causing us to forget our (past) up-bringing. We are (now) founded by the L-rd, the G-d of Resurrection. Yea, he will re-establish us - for we have called to Him from out of Babylon. The Father of Glory, (even this) G-d will raise us again. Helping the just and righteous and redeeming us. the great, majestic G-d - G-d is our protector, rewarder, restrainer and eternal provider.
BLOOD LINE - DAVID, Nathan --> Y'shua. (this one is beautiful)
Beloved, Bestowed (upon us - is our) L-rd's great gift, alloted (to us) is the wonderful Comforter, restrainer and hidden manna). To His favoured (the holy dove and new wine) - increasing - His glory (that we may hear and understand - (how He has) united us in His gifts. G-d has brought forth a guardian - to mount (blessings on the) watchful, adorning (His) [called out people with His faithful witness] - (through His) King, the light (of the world). "I have asked G-d" from (out of my confusion) to heal (his) favored [maiden/bride]. (He has) honored (her) and maginified (her) - (through his) famous [announciation]. The gift of Yah, (Oh) wonderous grace, (on) shining glory, "I turn my eyes to see G-d's (face)" - (knowing) His comforting guide is strong (enough to bear the burden) - (of) increasing rage (against His) King. He joined (us by His) grace (giving the Highest, perfect [offering] - (for all) rebellion; Jesus Christ.
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