From: 	 heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	 Monday, August 04, 1997 11:35 PM
To: 	 Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: Re: That the world may know


From:          "Hay Did Center For Learning - haydid" <haydid@haydid.org>
Reply-to:      shalom@haydid.org
To:            heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com wrote:
> 
> From: "Pamela Jackson" 
> To: heg_roots_chr@geociies.com
> Subject: RE:That the World may know
> 
> Greetings everyone in the name of Yeshua..........from Washington,
> D.C.
> 
> Eddie I was just reading an e-mail about how you will be offering the
> series THAT THE WORLD MAY KNOW.  I've had the opportunity to view a
> few volumns, the are EXCELLENT.  When will we be able to purchase
> them from you....I'd like to order the entire series....please allow
> me to know.
> 
> Just a note of thats for all of the information sent to me....i've
> just joined about two weeks ago, and allow me to say that this
> information is a release of joy into my spirit.
> 
> I plan to attend the Hebrew University in Baltimore in the fall of
> 98.  I'm sure with all of this information i will be well prepared
> when the time comes.
> 
> Thanks again eddie and to all subscribers of this network....God is
> about to expload in the lives of his people.
>
> 
> **************************************************************************
>


Dear Pamela,

You may call 1-316-331-7712 to order, or if you are brave, you may send
the following information to our email account:

1.Exact Name on Credit Card (we do accept personal checks, too, in the
USA, but  overseas MUST send a check/money order drawn on US BANK)
2. Shipping address (We will use NOT use UPS)
3. Phone number where YOU can be reached
4. Credit Card number 
5. Expiration Date

There are 4 Series of THAT THE WORLD MAY KNOW. You can purchase them as
sets that include 2 videos, the teacher's guide, and the packet of
overheads/transparencies that help the teacher with the indepth
presentation.

Series 1 and 2 sell for $96 (+$8 shipping in the USA) 
Series 3 and 4 sell for approximately $120 each (+$8 shipping in the
USA). I use the term "approximately" as I have a new price list coming
in the mail, and it was $120 in the last listing, but if it is more, we
will, of course, have to adjust it. 

We've been busy over the weekend with other phone inquiries about this
video series. I believe that this series is the teaching tool that many
of you have been looking for. It is produced by FOCUS ON THE FAMILY
which is a wonderful publishing company that everyone is familiar with.
Dr. James Dobson's life was changed by a visit to Israel with Raynard
Vander Laan. Ray took Dr. Dobson to the archeaological digs in Israel
and there on site, shared the Scriptures using the history and insight
that are often over looked in the average trip to Israel, and that  few
who have never  studied the history and geography of Israel could
impart. (Our associate teachers ALWAYS take their tours to Israel this
way----Randy Felton at pottersclay@mail.icnet.net has a wonderful unique
tour coming up in October. It will be a walking tour of Israel. Contact
him for more information!) 

So Dr. Dobson, asked Ray to do this series for FOCUS. Al and Anita
Robertson introduced me to the series, and I was hooked! My background
in education with a minor in history, then led me to look at the series
as a stepping stone in the curriculum that we will be encouraging the
students in this network to use. 

Rabbi Othniel is  conducting his introductory meeting to open a
satellite school of Arkanasas Institute of Holy Land Studies on August
14 here in Independence. Not only will Rabbi be able to offer the
excellent degreed program from The Institute for those who want a degree
in Middle Eastern History, but he will also be able to use THAT THE
WORLD MAY KNOW with homeschoolers, and others interested in adding more
knowledge to their Bible Study groups, congregations, or just attend a
class where there will be information. Homeschoolers from seventh
through high school will benefit from this series. If you have a local
support unit for homeschooling and wish to purchase a set of these
videos for one of the  parents to teach, you may order them through us
also. If you are an individual from a church setting let me share that I
have had several pastors call and order. They plan on using the series
on Sunday and Wednesday nights, and one pastor plans on using it as a
"revival" theme---gently teaching and leading his congregation into a
more indepth study of Jewish roots in the months ahead. Even a youth
pastor could use this program for an Israel theme! 

And remember once you get the okay to pursue this series, our teachers
stand ready to come and teach the follow up materials! Rabbi O is
planning on teaching other "continuing education credit courses" that
people may take on the festivals, etc...and begin setting up a
supplemental curriculum around this program and The Institute's classes. 

This program is also available in the overseas market. I  am working on
getting those connections set up so that the PAL vcr format will be
available to the 33 countries that we are now in.

If you have the  desire to teach Hebraic roots in your area, and would
like to open a satellite school of The Institute please call
1-800-617-6205 today. You may  also view the mailout packet of
information at http://www.haydid.org/ark.htm that The Institute will
send you. You may copy off over 27 pages of information, read over it,
and then fill out the administrator's form. Once it is printed out and
you have filled it out, then call The Institute to tell Quenan to turn
on the fax machine, and send it. Mark Frank will call you  back as soon
as possible. Tell them that the newsgroup sent you!

Some of you may already have the videos in your church library or even
the public library. Often times just the videos are there, and not the
teacher's guide, or overheads. We didn't realize that until this
weekend. We will be back in touch with you about how to order this
supplemental items and a price.

Remember that I will be gone this week to the Big Jerusalem Conference
in Little Rock, but my daughter will be home monitoring the email. If
you wish to order this material PLEASE send her an email instead of
calling! She will be in and out (I've given her a little time off this
week, okay?), and email will be the best way to communicate. She will be
able to  place the order, but please remember to furnish her the needed
information. If you wish to have her call you to get the credit card
number, she will do it. Just remember that we need to conserve on our
phone bill. It was a rough summer financially here and funds are not
available to encourage long discussions. If you would like to visit with
Laura a little bit then we  would ask that you tell her what time would
be convenient for her to be here at our home (she's married and lives
across town) to talk to you. She is such a dear hard worker for the
Lord, too. I always tell her that this ministry is due to HER witness in
our lives and that each and every thing that happens here is a result of
her faithful life of prayer over us many years ago. I saw in her
something that I  wanted, and found HIM as a result. Everything resulted
in our lives because we adopted this older child many  years ago that no
one wanted. She has been one of two older children that  we adopted, and
both have been more than we could ever have desired! Baruch Hashem!

I hope that this will help you. We will be making major updates to our
site soon. There is LOTS to be added at this point, and once we return
from "Small Stone" (Little Rock) we will get to it. You'll find new
teaching articles, expanded catalog, and much more by September 1. Also
our foreign friends have been busy translating much of our site into
other langauges, and we will premier those sites. All of this is done
through volunteers! We can only expand our site and share more resources
as the funds are available. We do not solicit for money. We simply ask
your prayers. IF you will pray for us, and then be obedient there will
be more than enough to share more and more. When you purchase materials
from us, then that profit is plowed back into inventory and services for
everyone's benefit. We operate out of our home so there is no building
overhead. All of us are volunteers so we do not pay salaries. We give so
that HE may be seen more fully! One of our great prayer request is that
you be blessed through this ministry daily. Please know that your notes
of encouragement are always apprecitated. 

To HIM be the glory!
Cheryle Holeman
HaY'Did Learning Center
PO Box 804
Independence, KS 67301
1-316-331-7712
http://www.haydid.org
shalom@haydid.org

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From: 	heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	Thursday, August 14, 1997 1:19 AM
To: 	Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: 	Re: That the world may know


From:          Paul Bergum 
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

Our congregation here in Michigan has been going through the series and the 
response has been great. I'm glad to see that rooters can now get them. I
feel 
that this series will certainly aid in supplementing your material and focus.

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From:          mayim <mayim@mail.doitnow.com>
Organization:  Mayim Hayim Ministry
To:            Hebrew NewsGroup <heb_roots_chr@geocities.com>
Subject:       [Fwd: Studying Jewish History]

I fully agree,  these tapes are wonderful!!! An eye opening for so
many people. Great job by Ray Vander Laan, and FOF. All the Hebraic
roots of our faith are in his teaching, good stuff.

Shalom,
Barbara <><
http://www.doitnow.com/~mayim/index.htm

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From:          "Widgren, Valerie/COR" 
To:            "'heb_roots_chr@geocities.com'"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com> 
Subject:       RE: It's All Christians' Fault! WHAT??

Rooters: 

 PBS put out an excellent video that is available for $25
entitled "Jihad in America," by Middle-east special journalist Steve
Emerson.  (PBS can be reached at (800) 328-7271.)  It will shock you
with footage of conferences that have taken place all over the US
where the most feared terrorists were in attendance.  It's well worth
the bucks.

Val 

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From: 	heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	Wednesday, August 20, 1997 11:52 PM
To: 	Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: 	Re: That the world may know


From:           Barbara Patton
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: That the world may know


At 12:30 AM 8/12/97 +0000, you wrote:
>To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
>From:          Allen Steenwyk 
>Subject:       Re: That the world may know
>
>FYI:
>
>Last spring, I completed a series of 29, 75 minute lectures by Ray Vander
>Laan. One of the best experiences of my life.  An excellent educational
>experience. The sponsoring church made a tape of each lecture and may be
>willing to share them.  If interested let me know. 
>Also, interesting to note, that Ray's prayer had been for G-d to give him an
>audience; G-d used Focus On The Family.
>
>Allen Steenwyk 
>

From: Barbara Patton

Several months ago I purchased Vol. 4 of "That the World May Know".  I have
been so blessed by these videos.  I had thot many times to share them with
the group-- I'm so glad that you did Allen.  It seems that God has directed
our path so that we are learning about things that are spurring us on to
walk closer to the Lord. Our eyes are being opened to truths.  I have prayed
for truth to be revealed to me.  I have felt that something was missing in
my long standing Baptist doctrinal imput and schooling.  Praise the Lord, He
said if we seek we shall find!  I really want to share the things we are
receiving from the heb-roots and the videos with people around us, anybody -
but you know we are not getting many takers!  I think that a person has to
be ready and wanting to know - prepared by the Holy Spirit first!
Anyway,  I highly recommend these videos and along with them I purchased the
book (on cassette, narrated by Ray Vander Laan)  "Echo's of His Presence".
It pulls together the teachings on the videos in a story about ficticous
people but woven together with REAL people and places and Jewish traditions
and then at the end of each chapter brought home to where we walk today.  It
has made me feel like I've been there walking the streets with Jesus!  Most
Excellent!!

May God Bless

Barbara

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From: 	heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Sent: 	Monday, August 25, 1997 11:28 PM
To: 	Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: 	Re: That the world may know



>From:           Barbara Patton
>To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
>Subject:       Re: That the world may know
>
>
>At 12:30 AM 8/12/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
>>From:          Allen Steenwyk 
>>Subject:       Re: That the world may know
>>
>>FYI:
>>
>>Last spring, I completed a series of 29, 75 minute lectures by Ray Vander
>>Laan. One of the best experiences of my life.  An excellent educational
>>experience. The sponsoring church made a tape of each lecture and may be
>>willing to share them.  If interested let me know. 
>>Also, interesting to note, that Ray's prayer had been for G-d to give him an
>>audience; G-d used Focus On The Family.
>>
>>Allen Steenwyk 
>>
>
>From: Barbara Patton
>
>Several months ago I purchased Vol. 4 of "That the World May Know".  I have
>been so blessed by these videos.  I had thot many times to share them with
>the group-- I'm so glad that you did Allen.  It seems that God has directed
>our path so that we are learning about things that are spurring us on to
>walk closer to the Lord. Our eyes are being opened to truths.  I have prayed
>for truth to be revealed to me.  I have felt that something was missing in
>my long standing Baptist doctrinal imput and schooling.  Praise the Lord, He
>said if we seek we shall find!  I really want to share the things we are
>receiving from the heb-roots and the videos with people around us, anybody -
>but you know we are not getting many takers!  I think that a person has to
>be ready and wanting to know - prepared by the Holy Spirit first!
>Anyway,  I highly recommend these videos and along with them I purchased the
>book (on cassette, narrated by Ray Vander Laan)  "Echo's of His Presence".
>It pulls together the teachings on the videos in a story about ficticous
>people but woven together with REAL people and places and Jewish traditions
>and then at the end of each chapter brought home to where we walk today.  It
>has made me feel like I've been there walking the streets with Jesus!  Most
>Excellent!!
>
>May God Bless
>
>Barbara
>
>***********************************************************************
>

To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
From:          Allen Steenwyk 
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

Dear Barbara,

Excellent stuff isn't it?
Ray also runs tours of Isreal for his students several times a year, and
takes some adults along.  My wefe gave me one of those tours for our 25th
anniversary, and it was one of the hige points of my spiritual life.  On our
tour a photographer accompanied us, and took pictures for an new cd ROM that
will be coming out later this year.  It is being produced by Focus, and will
include pictures, and several of Ray's sources.  Ray is excited about this
project and spent much time on it.  My son attends the sachool where Ray
teaches, and will be working as his teaching assistant.  Ray has promised
him a cd.  I'll let you know more about it when i have an opportunity to
preview it.

God Bless,
Al 

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From:          "Hay Did Center For Learning - haydid"<haydid@haydid.org> 
Reply-to:      shalom@haydid.org 
To:          heb_roots_chr@geocities.com 
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

Yes, Barbara, the book is excellent! We are updating our catalog to
include the book, and there is a NEW CDRom on Jesus by Ray Vander Laan
that we will also be carrying. The CDRom is designed for a family to
share around if they aren't interested in the videos. Excellent for
homeschoolers. ECHOES OF HIS PRESENCE (available in audio cassette for
$16 for members and $17 for non-members) is "Journey back to the world
of Jesus' day and see the undeniable significance of Christ, the
Messiah, come to life. Readers will come to appreciate how He lived,
what He did, the words He used---and what He meant. Plus, they'll be
fascinated at how truly relevant the Scriptures were then and still
are today. The book is hard cover ($18 members/$20 non-members)and
perfect for a person who is maybe needing a fictional setting to begin
to see HIM in His Jewishness. The stories intertwine many of the
things that add back in that Jewishness to a scene or character in one
of the Bible stories. JESUS, THE MAN, THE MESSAGE, THE MESSIAH: Though
Jesus died 2000 years ago, He remains  the most controversial and
debated man who ever lived. still, few people know much about HIM. For
example, why did He die at 3 p.m. on Good Friday? And what made His
crucifiction so exceptional---then and today? Realize the significance
of Christ with this CDRom. With keen insights from Ray Vander Laan,
host of THAT THE WORLD MAY KNOW video series, this exciting CD package
features hundreds of photographs, hours of narration, several
on-location video clips, in-depth articles...virtually everything
believers need to enhance their understanding of the Gospel. CD is to
be released October 97 (I have a preview CD and love it!). $49 members
and $50 for non-members.

WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR DISCOVER, NOVUS, MASTERCARD, and VISA now!
YEAH! You must call us to place your orders though. We've turned the
1-316-331-7712 phone number over the ministry now, and have another
number for our family since it got so busy around here. Thank you all
for your friendship and support! The rabbi and family wish to thank
you, too. Calls of support and donations have come forth towards a
car, and they are appreciated greatly! Thank you from Rabbi and
Rachel! Shalom! Cheryle Holeman HaY'Did Learning Center PO Box 804
Independence, KS 67301 1-316-331-7712 (phone) http://www.haydid.org

PS: If you haven't seen this tshirt, we all should have one made: THE
ONE WITH THE MOST BOOKS WHEN THEY DIE WINS!  How true that is! We're
all growing a library, aren't we?


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To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
From:           (Randy Felton)
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

Dear Barbara,

I share your grief over the many who just don't seem interested in
learning or growing.  I have a good friend who came to me last week
with a simple and yet profound revelation.  "You can't feed people
unless they are hungary"... it is so simple...we can't feed anyone
that does not want to eat, and so we go looking for the hungary.

Shalom, 

Randy Felton


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From:         Jim Henkel
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: That the world may know

Allen - please provide infor on the sharing of the tapes you
referenced 

thanks, jim 

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From: 	heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	Friday, August 29, 1997 1:14 AM
To: 	shalom@haydid.org; gsa00171@mail.wvnet.edu; tomholeman@acci.echlin.com
Subject: 	Re: That the world may know

To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com

heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com wrote:
> 
> From:           Barbara Patton
> To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
> Subject:       Re: That the world may know
> 
> At 12:30 AM 8/12/97 +0000, you wrote:
> >To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
> >From:          Allen Steenwyk
> >Subject:       Re: That the world may know
> >
> >FYI:
> >
> >Last spring, I completed a series of 29, 75 minute lectures by Ray Vander
> >Laan. One of the best experiences of my life.  An excellent educational
> >experience. The sponsoring church made a tape of each lecture and may be
> >willing to share them.  If interested let me know.
> >Also, interesting to note, that Ray's prayer had been for G-d to give him
an
> >audience; G-d used Focus On The Family.
> >
> >Allen Steenwyk
> >
> 
> From: Barbara Patton
> 
> Several months ago I purchased Vol. 4 of "That the World May Know".  I have
> been so blessed by these videos.  I had thot many times to share them with
> the group-- I'm so glad that you did Allen.  It seems that God has directed
> our path so that we are learning about things that are spurring us on to
> walk closer to the Lord. Our eyes are being opened to truths.  I have prayed
> for truth to be revealed to me.  I have felt that something was missing in
> my long standing Baptist doctrinal imput and schooling.  Praise the Lord, He
> said if we seek we shall find!  I really want to share the things we are
> receiving from the heb-roots and the videos with people around us, anybody -
> but you know we are not getting many takers!  I think that a person has to
> be ready and wanting to know - prepared by the Holy Spirit first!
> Anyway,  I highly recommend these videos and along with them I purchased the
> book (on cassette, narrated by Ray Vander Laan)  "Echo's of His Presence".
> It pulls together the teachings on the videos in a story about ficticous
> people but woven together with REAL people and places and Jewish traditions
> and then at the end of each chapter brought home to where we walk today.  It
> has made me feel like I've been there walking the streets with Jesus!  Most
> Excellent!!
> 
> May God Bless
> 
> Barbara
> 
>
***********************************************************************Allen,

	I would be very interested in a copy of those tapes by Ray 
VanderLaan.  Please let us know how we may get them.  Thanks!
	Also, some folks were interested in Bible software.  I highly 
recommend a CD called Seedmaster.  I don't know the publisher.  My 
former pastor introduced it to me and I love it!  I am planning to order 
it very soon.  It is available for around $40.00.
					Shalom,
					Rick Lilly
					gsa00171@mail.wvnet.edu

From Eddie:
***************

          Tom,

      Can you make sure that Cheryle get's this message?


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