To: "Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:12:35 +0000 Subject: The Birth of Yeshua/Jesus during Sukkot
From: Colleen To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: The Birthday of Yeshua during Sukkot
I am new to the group so forgive me if I repeat an already asked question or two. I am not of Jewish heritage and have never celebrated the feasts etc. but, I am fascinated that this is the time of our Saviours birth. I am fully aware however though that Dec. 25 was chosen to make the celebration of Jesus more acceptable to the pagans but, my question would be this. Is it not more important to celebrate the event in the spirit of thanksgiving to our God who sent the Christ.....Messiah (excuse me I don't use the same terminology that you would use) as opposed to being overly concerned with dates. I know that within the Christian community there is currently quite a stir about the issue of the date of Christ's birth. I am not saying it is wrong to know when I am just curious what your stand would be. I am so grateful for this news group as I enjoy studying the culture in which jesus came into and grew up in since it totally changes many of my understandings of the scriptures......thank you for inviting me in.
Colleen
>From Eddie: **************
Colleen,
Here is my advice to your question. In Jeremiah 29:13 it is written:
"And ye shall seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart"
In Matthew 5:6 it is written:
"Blessed are they which hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled"
In John 4:24 it is written:
"God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth".
In Romans 8:14 it is written:
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"
In Psalm 37:23 it is written:
"The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way"
You are studying the Hebraic Roots of your faith because you are being led by the Ruach HaKodesh / Holy Spirit of God. Following after the ways of God is a STEP BY STEP PROCESS. In Isaiah 28:9-10 it is written:
"Who shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? ... For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, here a little, and there a little"
None of us are where we are in the Lord overnight, it is a process of growth, learning and understanding. So, keep studying. The Lord will direct your steps and you will be led by the Spirit of God. Then, you will make all your decisions with the peace of God in your heart.
>From Colleen: ****************
P.S I am aware you are observing your holy days and will wait patiently for a reply.
>From Eddie: **************
Colleen, I am not Jewish. I was raised in traditional Christianity. In Leviticus 23:2 it is written:
" ... concerning the FEASTS of the LORD which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are MY FEASTS"
God in His love has INVITED us to come to HIS Feasts. Isn't God great to invite us to come to HIS celebrations? God is so awesome! His mercy and love endures forever! Won't it be great to be invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb also? (Rev 19:7-9)
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> > From: Laurie Show > To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com > Subject: Feast of Tabernacles > > Shalom! > > Thank you so much for your daily postings! I love it! This year will > be our first year celebrating the Feast of Tabernacles. We're very excited! > As a converted Gentile family, > we have begun to replace the traditional Christian holidays with the Feasts > one by one. We do get a little flack about it, but it has been so wonderful > to learn more about the wonderful God whom we serve through them. > > Thank you in advance, > > Laurie Show > > ***********************************************************************
From: RICH ALTOM To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: Re: Feast of Tabernacles Info
DEAR BROTHER IN THE LORD:
I AM ALSO A NON-JEW WHO HAS COME TO THE WONDERFUL UNDERSTANDNG OF THE FESTIVALS OF G-D. WE ALSO GET FLACK ABOUT IT, BUT THE SPRIRIT IS WORKING TO SHOW US THE WAS IN WHICH WE SHOULD. PRAY FOR ME AND MY HOUSE AND I WILL DO THE SAME FOR YOU.
SHALOM RICH
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From: Eddie Chumney To: heb_roots_chr@geocities.com Subject: The Birth of Yeshua during Sukkot
THE BIRTH OF YESHUA DURING SUKKOT (Taken from the book, "Seven Festivals of the Messiah")
With the end of the year approaching, without a doubt we will probably be getting into the "Christmas" debate about Christmas having it's origins in the worship of the sun god in Mythraism and Dec 25th being the birthday of the sun god. The Roman Catholic church adopted Dec 25 as the birthday of Yeshua/Jesus to allow for those who worshipped Mithras to be more easily converted to Roman Catholicism. The Eastern Orthodox church regards "Christmas" as being on Jan 6th.
What most Protestants don't realize is that Protestants have not fully left those things that were brought in by the Roman Catholic church when they mixed paganism (Egyptian/Babylonian/Mithraism) worship and practices with the worship of the God of Israel and sanctioned this mixed worship as the true worship of the God of Israel. By understanding the themes of the festival of Sukkot (Tabernacles), we can understand that Yeshua/Jesus was most probably born on the first day of Sukkot (Tishrei 15). Let us examine some of the facts which leads us to this conclusion.
In Luke 1:5, Zachariah is a priest of the division of Abijah. What does this mean? Israel was divided into 24 districts at the time of Yeshua/Jesus. Each of these districts sent two representatives to officiate at the Temple during the weeks of the year. In I Chron 24, the first division of the priests would serve in the first week of the year which would be both in the month of Nisan and Tishrei since both months begin the new year, Tishrei on the Civil Calendar and Nisan on the religious calendar. During the Festivals, the priests from all 24 districts would go to Jerusalem to help with the festival activities.
In I