From: 	 heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Sent: 	 Thursday, November 27, 1997 6:12 PM
To: 	 Hebraic Heritage Newsgroup
Subject: Prayer Comments and Trip Reports
>
>From:       Rick Taylor
>To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
>Subject:       Prayer Request - Thanks
>
>Dear Mishpachah (family),
>
>I have taken this time to ask for prayer from all of you.  I do not
>really know anyone to talk with, and the anonimity of this forum is
>condusive for me to seek your help in prayer.  I work at a middle
>school, and that is where I have my computer access. I will not be in
>school after Friday for the Thanksgiving holiday.  We will be closed
>for the week, and I will not be able to read any mail.  So I will
>include my snail mail address if any of you would be so inclined to
>offer advice.
>
>The request is two fold:
>
>1.)  My wife of three months has come from a previous 14 years
>abusive relationship. Her first husband used and abused her
>physically, emotionally and sexually on a daily basis for all of
>those years. If you were to take the worst case senario that you
>know, and multiply it ten times, it may be about as bad as hers.  She
>nightmares every night to such a degree that she often becomes
>physically violent because she believes that she is warding off an
>attack.  She wants to be held when we go to sleep, but when she gets
>asleep and enters dream state. she becomes hyper-sensitive to touch
>and the slightest touch can send her into her torturous dreams. 
>Please pray for her deliverance.  I pray for her and war for her in
>prayer, but this is not enough.  She is a believer.  Her name is
>Sandy.
>
>2.)  I know that most of you probably do not celebrate Christmas, we
>do, but we also celebrate Yeshua's birth during Sukkot - because of
>the postings on this group.  She came into the marriage with three
>children and I entered the marriage with three children.  Hers live
>with us: Becky-6, CJ-11, Amber-14; mine are only part time with us:
>Shane-10, Nathanial-12, Jonathan-14.  My income is from my work with
>the Wellsville Middle School, as an aide with emtionally disturbed
>kids and with a boy with spinal bifida.  This is where I have
>computer access.  My income is barely sufficient to pay basic bills. 
>Sandy and I have both looked for other income to no avail (she
>occassionally sits with an elderly lady).  We are unable to provide
>for any of them this crucial first Christmas together as a family. 
>Please pray for me that I may be able to provide.  I have some books
>in a basement that I am trying to sell, plus some other things, but
>to date no one is interested.  Pray that I might find a means to earn
>some extra money before the Christmas season gets here.
>
>The first request is priority, but the second is fairly important for
>our children.  Thank you in advance for your prayers.  I felt
>comfortable in the anonimity of the group to share these.  I haven't
>been able to share these things locally.  Thank you for just taking
>the time to read them.
>
>Yours because of Yeshua,
>Rick Taylor
>P.O. Box 1302
>Wellsville, NY  14895
>
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To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: Prayer Update/Rick Taylor
From:         Richard W Breazeale

  Rick, 

I hope you dont mind  a word I feel in the spirit. I dont know
the ins and outs of the relationship with your wife now with her ex. But
it really quickened in me that perhaps she is holding still unforgiveness
and resentment for her ex. And I will confess I believe understandably
so. Yet we are called to forgive. I know just how hard this is belive me,
I too have been brought to the line in a different way to reach down into
the depths of my soul in forgiveness in a terrible situation. But, i find
this. When that which we hold resentment and unforgiveness for is
confronted, and we willfully in person forgive another (no matter how bad
the offense) that immediate release comes to the one that gives
forgiveness, in both  the spiritual and the physical.  This has a twofold
effect in the spirit. It releases her, and then releases God to move upon
the one who was the cause of offense. When we harbor resentment and
unforgiveness for another, in this we in the hidden secrets of the soul
habor also vengeance and vindication. This keeps the Lord God at bay. I
know this may sound stupid, but I have personaly witnessed this in the
spirit and flesh. It heaps burning coals on his head and frees, sets at
liberty your wife. It WILL BE painful! But it IS worthy! God is so
faithful when we reach out in faith to believe Him above our own feelings
or mans logic and reasoning. I will pray for your wife, but I will also
pray for the ex, as his problem runs much deeper than his outward actions
show.

Peace in Christ......................

Richard/Lazarus

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>From:          Sara Sutherland 
>To:          Heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
>Subject:       Brian Tumor Update
>
>Dear All THANK YOU so very much for all your PRAYERS.  I really felt
>them. I tell you this all has hand G-d's hand all throughout.  We
>knew it was a tumor in matter of  a week after it I had it check out.
>
>
>Most Tumors calicifies on the bone and then move down toward 
>the brian.  This one did not. It broke through the Bone and grew on
>the outside.  Yes it as a malignate tumor and still seroius but It
>could have been much more.  I have felt Like Abenago(sp?).  G-d lead
>me into the furnace and has and Will give me the strength to go
>through it. 
>
>I will be going under localized radiation Therapy in December.  The
>type of tumor(highly aggressive) if untreated it would come
>back(100%); Treated(10%) They are still unsure of it's type other
>than it is a primary tumor( not from another location).  The MRI &
>CAT scan don't show any evedince of the tumor itself. It does not
>show on a microscopic level if there are any malignate cells waiting
>to grow. I have an Unocologist to keep check with for life. 
>
>Our family flew in for the occassion from East Coast and what a way
>for them to see the grandkids.  They non-Believers got to see Prayer
>and Community at work and that Left an impression.  Lots of seeds
>planted. I was truely blessed too, by the Messianic Community
>localised and spread-out, too see it work.  THANK YOU!
>
>I KNOW it is G-d's ability to heal me outright and just believe that
>this is the end of it.  He has done this all so far.
>
>But I was bought with a price and my Life is NO LONGER my own.  I am
>His to do as HE wills.  He has Willed me and those I know down this
>path.  It will be for HIS GLORY.
>
>I am a walking medicine chest ,each medicine has a reason and an
>effect. Writting, typing and reading are dizzing adventures.(It makes
>me dizzy) Please continue praying for my recovery. As They slowly
>decrease the steroid for inflamation, they swelling increases and I
>use IBR and Tyl to offset discomort.  I have to rest alot and my kids
>aren't going to stop growing. 
>
>We have been blessed with meals and my husbnd taking time off.  But
>even He has to earn a living and goes back to work this Monday.  I
>know all will work out even If I don't know the details.  That's were
>the Trust in Him comes in.
>
>Again thank you for all your Prayers and May this Thanksgiving be
>everso Blessed. 
>
>Baruch HaShem Yeshua!
>
>Sara Sutherland
>
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>

To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
From:          Yvonne Stubbs
Subject:       Re: Prayer Update and Trip Report

Dear Sara....will keep you in my prayers.I hope you know how to build
your immune system up through nutrition.  If not, call Anne and David
Frahm at 1-719-593-8694.  She had cancer and after they had cut,
burned and poisoned her and sent her home to die, she cried out to God
to show her what to do to get healed, he did.  Now she and her husband
have a non profit foundation where they can share with you what God
showed them.  They live in Colorado. Give them a call.

Shalom, 

Yvonne

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From:         karin hahn
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Re: Prayer Update and Trip Report

Dear Sara,

I am new to this site and really enjoy all the letters and info.  Your
letter really touched my heart.  I have had many surgeries in the past
and came to the conclusion on the last one that I am not my own, I am
the Lords and my body is his body.  I think that is what you said in
your letter.  It really freed me of worry and taught me to trust in a
whole new way.

I will pray for you and please keep us posted.  I have a daughter who
is 29 so my mothers heart took over I guess.

In Him,
Karin

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From:          Ken Jeffries 
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Prayer Update and Trip Report -Reply

Shalom Sara (Sutherland) and Rick (Taylor)

May I pray for you both.

Sara, may the L-rd bless you and make His face shine upon you.

Father

I praise and worship You, You said I am the L-rd that heals you,  L-rd
take this womans sickness and turn it into healing, destroy those
cancer cells and tumours L-rd.  We are healed by the Blood of Y'shua,
by Your stripes L-ord we are healed, we claim it L-rd in Your Name.


Rick may the L-rd bless you and make His face to shine upon you and
your wife Sandy.

Father

Take Sandy's wounds L-rd and bind them, by Your wounds we ARE
healed, no more sorrow no more pain in You Y'shua.  You never refused
to heal anyone, L-ord heal this woman from her wounds of the past, we
cut them off Y'shua in Your Name.  I thank You L-ord that You will
supply all our needs.  Praise You Father we thank You for Your love
and care for us.

Your servant L-rd

Ken

Sara, Rick and Sandy I will get my church in England to pray for you
we have a great healing ministry, our most recent cases are a woman
with breast cancer - healed , a man with brain cancer - healed .
Praise Him, Praise His Holy Name.

Believe and  you will recieve.

B'shem Adonai Y'shua

Ken 

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From:         Diana Gallovich
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Prayer for Welkom, South Africa

Shalom beloved friends in Christ,

The following was sent to me by a wonderful friend in the LORD who
also is just beginning to love and understand our Hebrew Roots.  His
name is Pastor Cornelius Claassen of Goldfields Revival Center --
Welkom, South Africa.

 Please pray for him and his congregation as they are caught in the
midst of ever changing economic conditions within their country.  It 
would be nice if you could please write to him directly to offer him 
and his congregation your prayers and support.

Blessings in Yeshua Messiah,
Diana Gallovich -- Glendale, Arizona

He wrote the following:

From:	 Cornelius Claassen
To:              Diana Gallovich

Greetings in the Name of Jesus

A few Months back our Local Bi-Weekly Newspaper (Vista -22
July 1997) reported that:

" Freegold the Company that comprises of six Goldmines on the
Goldfields who in 1994 employed about 86 000 people plans to
reduce its Labour Force within the next 2 years to a mere
30 000 people.  The Company produces 111 tons of Gold per
year, which is 10 per cent of the World's Gold.
It further plans to close within two years six shafts and by
the year 2000 a total of nine shafts will have been closed,
affecting the jobs of about a further 14 000 people

The Mine, Western Holdings (whose Main Shaft is directly
opposite our Church Building)  will close its Number 3 Shaft
at the end of this year and this will affect about 900
workers. (some of whom attend our Church)

Should the present low Gold Price - Gold is at her lowest
level in 12 years - not rise steeply in the near future the
outlook for the Goldfields could be even more serious.
The Concern for the welfare of the Goldfields is so serious
that the Premier of the Free State with a team of Experts is
to visit the area for a fact finding Mission later in the
Month. "

Since this report appeared the Gold Price has continued to
slide downward and it was announced last week that 6 Mines
Shafts will be closed before Christmas and all the "Miners"
retrenched.  The immediate outlook is extremely bleak !

We have already lost 19 families (out of a total of 94)
who have left Welkom during the past 2 months for Mines
elsewhere in South Africa.

It was announced that the President Steyn Gold Plant is to be
closed with immediate effect and dismantled - The most senior
Elder in the Local Church and the most faithful ! - is
employed by the Gold Plant - We are hoping and praying that
he may be transferred to another Gold Plant belonging to the
Company on the Goldfields rather then to be retrenched but
they will in any event have to move house - hopefully still
in Welkom !

Yesterday, another active member of our Church received his
Retrenchment notice (three small children) - they have until
the end of December and then must vacate their Mine House !

Today, is however D-Day for most of those who belong to
our Church - By tommorrow we will know who are retrenched
and who will remain in the employ of the Mines.
(Some Three Thousand "miners" will be retrenched today
in Welkom alone) Further retrenchment will take place on the
18th December 1997.

Since my arrival in the Goldfields we have experienced
much retrenchments on the Mines and as a result have seen our
Church Attendance drop over the past few years as the people
concerned moved away from Welkom.

The real problem however is that most people do not own their
own homes on the Goldfields and thus when retrenchments etc
take place most of the Skilled "White" Workers leave the
Goldfields to settle elsewhere in the Country.
The Mining Community especially the "White Skilled Miners"
are a constantly moving people remaining only for a short
time before moving to richer and better paying mines
elsewhere in South Africa.

Much of what is stated above about the Goldfields did not
come unexpectly and I have known about the impending closures
of Mine Shafts ever since I took the Call to the Goldfields.

Your prayers are requested - Christmas will be extremely
bleak this year for our Church and for many families in the
Goldfields !

The Harvest however is still ripe and much must be gathered
in before our Master returns - I have answered the Call to
the Goldfields - and I intend to remain faithful to my
calling regardless !

Christian Love
Cornelius Claassen

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From:          Stan Grams 
To:            "heb_roots_chr@geocities.com"<heb_roots_chr@geocities.com> 
Subject:       puzzled

I am puzzled.

I just finished reading where a member of this group is "a walking
medicine chest" because of a tumor. Another person wrote of emotional
problems from a previous abusive marriage. And other problems.. Many
others. They say that they are believers. Apparently not just
passively, but actively (else, I doubt they would be so interested in
this forum.)

I am deeply touched by these and the other problems expressed by
members of this group. And as I read, I think of my own faith. I
believe in the G-d who is almighty...who can do anything...who can
fling planets from his fingertips ...who parted the waters of the Red
Sea...who gave Sarah a child when...to far, far beyond whatever our
"pea sized brains"  might even begin to imagine. He can do anything.
Nothing is impossible. No problem is too big (or too small). This is
the same Master of the universal who can heal all hurts and solve all
problems. Instantly!

And then,  I have seen that healing (physical and/or emotional) often
takes time. G-d's ways, timetables, methods, are often unpredictable.
Puzzling.

I can't help but wonder why G-d allows these problems to present
themselves to believers in the first place. Why does it "rain on the
good and the bad?" Why did the psalmist walk step by step by step
"through the valley of the shadow of death?"  Look at the
relationship! Why wasn't he comfy and cozy on the mountain with
binoculars looking down on the valley? In short, why does a loving,
caring G-d put us through this exercise of faith?

Or, is this of our own doing? Think of  H. G. Wells' "War of the
Worlds" where people were told not to panic. And, the more often they
were told not to panic, the more it inspired panic.  Is this not also
true of the widely proclaimed message "Have faith in God?"  My mind
immediately goes into a "Why wouldn't I? Do you have some hidden
knowledge? Is there any reason not to? I've given Him my life, I want
to do his will  - and now you say this? Is there a negative I should
know about?"

I think back to a G-d fearing, G-d loving couple who had a baby that
became very, very ill. The doctor examined the infant and said he had
double pneumonia. He said that the tiny boy's condition was so bad
that he probably wouldn't live 24 hours. Believing the scripture
"...where two or three are gathered in my name..." these parents
called another couple from their church. They gathered around the
crib. The pitiful looking child didn't even cry. He was pale,
motionless and very close to death. What they saw did not inspire any
hope. Some may think of prayer as merely the power of positive
thinking. But, here and now, it would take more than the power of
positive thinking! Much more!  They prayed. >From the depths of their
hearts they pleaded that G-d would spare his life. Twenty-four hours
past. The baby was still alive! Thirty six hours, forty eight. Why do
I believe? I was that baby, and that was nearly 60 years ago. I could
tell you of many, many other personal experiences relating to prayer
and faith in a wonderful, loving, caring G-d.

And yet, I can't help but wonder why he works the way he does. Are
these experiences a "Do you love me? Do you REALLY love me!" test? Are
these troubling events some kind of preparation for our life
hereafter? I've even thought that maybe someday we'll become guardian
angels and this life is our "basic training."

Focus on just the physical healing ministry of Yeshua Jesus. One
person he would tell to wash three times. Another, he told to pick up
his bed and walk. Still another was healed with mud pies in the eyes.
Some were healed instantly, others had to do something first. Why the
variety of ways? Possibly to emphasize that it was not faith in the
means (bed, mud) but faith in the source (G-d). The common thread:
"Thy faith hath made thee whole."

I've also experienced unanswered prayer. (Such is the case as I write
this.) Why? Perhaps the reasons are just as numerous and varied as
there are individual prayers. Is it that I sometimes want to hedge my
bet? "I've prayed, and I know G-d can cure but - I'm going to the
doctor (just in case)." Suppose I said I'm having trouble with a
certain machine. I come to you and say, "You are the expert, you had
the idea for this machine, you built the first one, you've personally
worked on every one of them since then. I need your help. Only you
know exactly what's wrong with it and how to fix it. You know it
inside and out. Please, please help me. I really, really need your
help. Without your help it's a lost cause." Then I add, "Oh, by the
way, my cousin Louie took a screwdriver and opened up one of these
machines. I have a lot of faith in Doctor Louie and his screwdriver,
so I've asked him to try to fix it, too." I'm puzzled. That seems like
watered-down faith. And yet, we're considered less than rational if we
don't go to a doctor.  "...According to your faith will it be done to
you." - Matthew 9:29b

Unanswered prayer. Sometimes puzzling. A thought that does help, "I
have lived to thank God for unanswered prayer!" (Jean Ingalow)
Sometimes there are things we don't understand. Things we can't
comprehend. Sometimes confusing. Sometimes puzzling, but live with the
knowledge that G-d loves us and he deeply cares about us in every
aspect of our lives.

Stan

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From:          "HaY'Did" <shalom@haydid.org>
Reply-to:      shalom@haydid.org
Organization:  HaY'Did Learning Center
To:            heb_roots_chr@geocities.com
Subject:       Trip Report

Trip Report

By: Messianic Rabbi Yehoshua M. Othniel

  It was about a month or so ago when this trip to Mexico was first
mentioned to me; Cheryle Holeman told me about it.  Cheryle's husband
Tom was going, along with another couple of friends and ministry
associates of mine, Randy Felton and Marshall Martz.  Cheryle
suggested that my son Ephraim and I go along, it would be a good male
bonding experience.  As it turns out, it was, but it was much more
than that. Let me see if I can capture here some of what I experienced
and felt along this journey to Mexico.

  Jaurez, Mexico is a crowded border town just on the other side of
the river from El Paso, Texas. We crossed the border late Monday 
afternoon, it was rush hour and it took us some time to reach our final 
destination in Juarez due to horrendous traffic.  There were nine of us, 
three couples, two singles; Tom Holeman and I, and one young man, 
the grandson of one of the couples.

  We arrived at the church,  "Templo Augua Viva", this was to be our
home base while we stayed in Juarez.  The church compound was a 
simple affair yet it was a palace compared to the house directly next door
which was nothing more than a cardboard and pallet shack.  I don't
know how many people lived in that thing, but it seemed like a lot for
there were lots of children playing in the dirt yard in front of it. 
Every real building we saw had steel bars on the windows and doors to
protect the home owners or businesses from being robbed.  To me it
seemed like those who lived in or worked in such buildings were the
real prisoners.

  On Tuesday morning we arose with the Sun and headed out the four
miles or so to the "sub- development" where the family we'd be building 
a home for lived.  You should have seen the place, it was nothing more
than a shanty town of hastily build block and cement buildings, tar
paper shacks and lots of dirt and filth.  Yet in spite of these living
conditions,  the people I saw were clothed in clean decent clothes and
many wore smiles as they labored to build their "permanent" houses.  I
have to put the word permanent in quotes, for what these folks
consider permanent, we'd consider unfinished and unfit for occupation.
 These homes were on top of each other with little to no space between
them. They had no indoor plumbing,  mickey moused electricity that
would give a state building inspector nightmares, and many had nothing
more than packed dirt for a floor.

  We met the family we'd be building a house for, a father and mother
and two adorable little girls. I was told the father had one of the
better jobs in Juarez, he drove a truck or something like that, yet
they all lived in a tar paper shack that was a bit smaller than the
room in my home that my two sons sleep in.  Add to that a gas range, a
couple of beds, a card table and a pile of clothes and it's a wonder
these folks could even get through the door.

  We began work that morning, mixing and pouring a concrete slab upon
which the new house would sit.  Then we prefabricated the interior and
exterior walls.  By the time we finished I was so stiff and sore I had
some serious doubts as to whether or not I'd be able to return the
next day.  I was never so glad as I was that first night to lay down
in my cot inside our church palace with the big iron gate.

  Day two was much like day one except on this day I ventured to use
the local bathroom facilities, a flimsy out house located a block away 
from our building site in the middle of a vacant dirt lot in which the 
children would play soccer in the afternoons.  Out houses and 
Porta-Potties are not my favorite things, but any port in a storm as they 
say.  I probably should have taken my chances out to sea.  If the tar 
paper shacks were shaky at best, the Gents' out house was scary.  
Made out of boards so thin that I could easily snap with a single blow 
of my fist, the potty was situated over a gaping hole in the ground resting on boards that I
have to wonder how in the world they could have held up under my
weight.  I weigh about 220 lbs.  Entering that out house was like
trying to repel off a cliff with nothing but string for a rope!  Ah,
but God is good and I didn't repeat my visit to that particular
latrine again.

  On day three we were to complete the job.  I along with some of  my
associates were in some serious pain by this time.  It wouldn't be any
stretch of the imagination to say that some of us were out of shape.
Actually most of us were with the exception of Carl.  Carl was the
oldest of us males.  He reminded me of an old Drill Sgt. I once knew.
He kept us in line and put us to shame with his unbounded energy level
and cool headed experience.  He'd urge us on and we responded for we
were very much aware of why we'd come on this trip.  It's hard to
forget something like that with the family who'd benefit from our
handy work standing there watching us build them a house.

  The last nail was driven, the electricity connected and with all the
grandeur one would dedicate a battle ship with,  Andy,  the team
leader turned on the outside light and it really worked!  This may not
seem like a big deal to any of you, but keep in mind the people who
did the electrical wiring didn't really know what we were doing.

  One of the last things we did was to sign a Bible which was all in
Spanish which would be presented to the family along with the keys to
their new home.  Yup, the doors and windows all had steel bars for
protection.  We entered the house and asked the family to join us.  We
presented them with the Bible and I was honored by being asked to
recite a blessing over this tiny little home filled to the roof top
with love. After we blessed the house we said our good byes to the
family and left.  A little part of me got left behind in that house. 
Of all the things I've ever done in my life time,  I can't think of
anything more important than helping to give a gift to total strangers
who had no possibility of being able to pay me back.  The tears and
the smile that was on the woman of the homes face was all the reward I
needed.

  We returned to our refuge at the church completely exhausted.  We
sat down to eat and I broke out a bottle of wine that I had purchased to
celebrate.  It was a quiet celebration, very little talk or laughter.
We ate and drank and the looks I saw around the table as I sat there
said it all.  We'd done good. ... 

Rooters: You will want to visit this special link. Believe me you will
not want to miss this exciting announcement! Go to
http://www.haydid.org/importan.htm  and see what else happened this
week!

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To:            heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com
Subject:       Report from Brazil
From:          Barbara M. Richmond

Dear Eddie and Hebraic Roots group:

I have just returned from three weeks in Brazil and am delighted to
share the following report with you at your request, Eddie.  It was a
wonderful experience to say the least.  Of course, meeting Nayra was a
special delight.  She had arranged the itinerary and did a superb job.

I spoke about Israel, Jewish Roots, etc. in the cities of Goiania,
Brasilia, Maceio, Sao Paulo and Campinas.  Everywhere I found great
hunger in the people to hear the truth of God's Word concerning this
vital issue.  In the process, several people made first time
commitments to the Lord, there were healings witnessed and deep
repentance for anti-semitism.  In the church in Sao Paulo, the local
Messianic Rabbi slipped into the service the first night I was
preaching.  I did not know he was present.  At the end of my message,
the pastor invited the Rabbi to the platform and led the entire church
(about 400 people) in a corporate prayer of repentance and asking
forgiveness of the Rabbi for the sins of Christians against the Jews
and for our neglect of our Jewish Roots.  It was so powerful. The
Rabbi just wept and told me later that after the day of his salvation,
this was the second greatest day of his life for he had never heard
anyone speak out on these issues in a Christian church and was deeply
moved.  It was really a major breakthrough for that church also, as
the power of God began to move among the people in a very strong way
after the repentance and forgiveness, which confirmed my long time
belief that there is real healing power in being restored to our
roots.

Nayra is a precious sister in the Lord and is doing a wonderful work
among her people.  I sense that the Lord will be lifting her up to a
greater dimension of ministry in the near future.  Our fellowship was
wonderful and her church there in Maceio was absolutely outstanding in
their reception of the Word.

I trust this report will bless all on the newsgroup list.  Eddie, I
hope you are able to visit Brazil as well.  I know you will be
abundantly blessed as I was.  They have invited me to come back in
April of 1998.

Shalom and blessings to all,

Barbara Richmond

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